Predicting the Presidency
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Hello, and welcome to More or Less on the BBC World Service, your weekly dose of mathematical medicine. I'm Tim Harford. This week's prescription is a little different. Today we're meeting two stars of the statistical world. One is a 34-year-old New Yorker called Nate Silver, who's just published a book, The Signal and the Noise, The Art and Science of Prediction. The other was an English Presbyterian minister who died in 1761. His name was the Reverend Thomas Bayes. Nate Silver says he can predict the result of the forthcoming US presidential election. And Thomas Bays? Well, Thomas Bays helps him do it. Let's go back to 2008. Nate Silver had already achieved some success forecasting baseball results, but as Senators McCain and Obama slugged it out for the presidency, Silver switched from predicting batting averages to votes.
He managed to enrage half of Chicago last year by correctly predicting the White Sox, World Series winners of 2005, would finish with 72 wins and 90 losses. They finished with 72 wins and 90 losses. He has moved up in the world now, and now John McCain's strategists and supporters are going to be mad at him, or they will be after they see this. Our third story in the countdown, why a man who has elevated statistical prediction in sports to an art form now says it's statistically more probable that Barack Obama will win the 2008 election.
Nate Silver was right.
My friends, we have come to the end of a long journey. The American people have spoken, and they have spoken clearly. A little while ago, I had the honor of calling Senator Barack Obama to congratulate him on being elected the next president of the country that we both love.
In fact, Silva wasn't just right, he was spectacularly right. He correctly predicted which way 49 of the 50 states would go, and he got every US Senate race right too. This young, bespectacled baseball nerd was suddenly the most talked-about statistician in America. That was then. Now, as you might have noticed, Barack Obama is in another presidential race and, of course, just like last time, the TV networks are awash with polling data. This time, Nate Silver's blog, FiveThirtyEight, is being very closely watched.
Who is Nate Silver and why is he predicting the 2012 US presidential election?
But one of the things you notice about Silver's predictions is that they keep changing. And this is where Thomas Bayes comes in.
What Bayes' theorem is, and it's become very fashionable nowadays if you read mathematics or statistics journals, it's just a very simple mathematical formula that tells you what do you do when you encounter new information. And it gives it a way for you to weigh new information against your previous conception of a race.
So Bayes' theorem says that you start with what you think you know, then adjust those beliefs as new evidence emerges. It also provides a precise mathematical method for doing this. Imagine all the polls broadly agree on the election result and you think you know who's going to win. Then a new poll comes along which suggests a wildly different result.
How much should that poll change your view of the odds? And that's literally what Bayes' theorem is trying to do. And it says, among other things, that you're always going to look at prediction as a work in progress.
Bayesians like Silver don't throw out their old forecasts when the new poll numbers come in. The new data is used to adjust rather than replace what went before.
These polls are reported and people tend to treat each of them as being a highly newsworthy event unto itself. My view is that first of all you use all the information but tend to use it more sceptically. And I also use it in a way that's systematic. So you design a set of rules ahead of time for how you process these polls, and it spits out essentially a set of odds that updates each day as new polls come in. But it does ensure that you're looking at the data in the whole and looking for kind of what the consensus will tell you and not becoming overly fixated with anyone's survey because they will bounce up and down quite a bit.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–2:36
2
Who is Nate Silver and why is he predicting the 2012 US presidential election?
2:36–4:47
3
How did Nate Silver transition from baseball stats to forecasting elections?
4:47–8:48
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What was Nate Silver’s 2008 election track record and why did it matter?
8:48–9:27