The messy history behind the modern calendar
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Why question the meaning of a 'hottest May day' record?
Hello, and thanks for downloading the More or Less podcast, with a programme that looks at the numbers in the news, in life, and in ancient Maya calendars. And I'm Tim Harford. Last month, the UK's Met Office recorded a temperature of 35.1 degrees Celsius from a sensor at London's Kew Gardens. This was, the press reported, the hottest May Day since records began. a couple of our listeners got in touch to point something out. While 35.1 degrees seems like a sensible, rigorous way of measuring temperature, the month of May feels like an arbitrary way to record time.
This record was set quite late in the month, on the 25th of May. That made me wonder whether calendar months are always the most meaningful way to compare temperatures.
When meteorologists start quoting records in arbitrary periods such as the month of May, wouldn't it be better to narrow down these periods to more manageable and equal bytes? So, months, eh?
What's going on there? To find out more, I spoke to Kristen Lippincott, former director of the Royal Observatory at Greenwich and author of The Story of Time. Well, welcome to More or Less. Thank you. Now, our listeners have asked if May, the month of May, is an arbitrary way to measure time.
How did prehistoric peoples use the sky to build early calendars?
Is it?
Well, yes and no. It is arbitrary in that May is just a name for a group of days put together. But the idea of May and the idea of having a seasonal calendar goes way, way, way back to prehistoric times. So what were these prehistoric calendars like? The first reason why you would have a calendar is basically for survival. It would be tracking the changes in environment, in climate. For example, you'd want to know when the rains were coming, when it would be hot, when it would be cold, animal migration, sailing in the Mediterranean, things like that. people very quickly realized that they could tie these, what we would now call annual events, to the positions of the stars in the skies. So, for example, the annual flooding of the Nile came with the morning rising of Sirius, or Hesiod says, don't sail when the Pleiades have set.
So it's kind of how you can set markers in order to keep your community surviving.
And presumably, if we know something about these early calendars, they must have been recorded in some way.
Why were early written calendars lunar and how did they evolve?
So what are the first written calendars? What do they look like?
Well, the first written calendars are usually things like tracking the phases of the moon. There are scratchings on old bones that we now think are probably rudimentary calendars. If you think about yourself sitting in a field for a year... the first thing you will notice is how the moon changes every night. And that's why most of the very early calendars are lunar. And then later you get the solar calendar when they say, oh yeah, we've come full circle again and the sun's in the same place as it was in the sky, this time 365 days. So if you look, for example, some civilizations still use lunar calendars like Islam. Others use a lunar-solar calendar, which is the Julian calendar or our calendar, but also the Jewish calendar.
And so there's always this approximation between trying to get a cycle of a year to match the positions of the sun, the moon, and the stars.
And it's an approximation that has left us with the calendar we have today. The month started by tracking the phases of the moon, about 29 and a half days.
How did different civilizations design unique calendars (Mesopotamian, Egyptian, Maya)?
But as the calendar evolved to align with the solar year, the lengths shifted. Which is why May has 31 days, but February usually has 28. So that's how we currently cut up the year, but how did other civilisations do it in the past?
Every single culture has its own calendar to suit its own needs. The Mesopotamian calendar, the Mesopotamians were the great mathematicians of antiquity, and they were the ones who set up the 60 base number series.
Which we see in our sort of hours, minutes, seconds.
Yes. And so we have inherited it. The Egyptians had a 10 base calendar, so we've inherited some from that calendar. One of my favorites is the Aztec Mayan calendar, which is actually 20 day weeks.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
Why question the meaning of a 'hottest May day' record?
0:00–1:21
2
How did prehistoric peoples use the sky to build early calendars?
1:21–2:39
3
Why were early written calendars lunar and how did they evolve?
2:39–3:49
4
How did different civilizations design unique calendars (Mesopotamian, Egyptian, Maya)?
3:49–6:18
5
What did the French Revolutionary decimal calendar try to change and why did it fail?
6:18–7:57
6
Does the modern Gregorian/Julian calendar reflect cultural values or practicality?
7:57–8:52
7
Is it sensible to report weather records by calendar months?
8:52–8:54