WS MoreOrLess: Anti-Semitism
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Hello and welcome to More or Less on the BBC World Service. I'm Ruth Alexander. In the wake of the recent conflict between Israel and the Palestinians in Gaza, there have been reports from around the world of serious anti-Semitic incidents. That's hostility or prejudice against Jewish people. More or Less's James Fletcher is here. James, we've seen people at protests about the Gaza conflict carrying signs which say things like, kill the Jews.
Yes, and that's not all. In places like France, synagogues and Jewish businesses have been attacked. And in Sydney, Australia, a bus carrying Jewish schoolchildren was targeted by teenagers who were shouting Heil Hitler and threatening to slit the children's throats.
And it's incidents like these that have led to headlines and commentary around the world claiming that anti-Semitism is on the rise. But is it? We've been looking to see whether the evidence supports this claim that anti-Semitism's on the increase.
Now, to be clear, first of all, we know that antisemitism does exist. As we heard from those frightening examples, it can include violent attacks on people or property, threats, antisemitic graffiti, or online expressions of antisemitism. And if we look at previous similar conflicts, such as the Israeli offensive in Gaza in 2009... we can see that anti-Semitic incidents do seem to rise in the wake of those conflicts. But we should take some caution with that. Part of that rise could be that because in times of more conflict, people are also more aware of anti-Semitism and therefore more likely to report it.
So that's the short-term, but what about the long-term trend?
Well, the European Union's Fundamental Rights Agency, or FRA, publishes a report every year summarising data from governments and NGOs on anti-Semitic incidents. But its spokesperson, Katja Andrus, told me only around half the EU states collect data on anti-Semitic incidents, and the quality of those numbers varies hugely.
What incidents prompted concerns that anti‑Semitism is on the rise?
It is very incomplete. There are huge gaps in the data that's collected at the official level.
What about this proposition that you do hear repeated in the media that anti-Semitism is on the rise? Does the data support that?
Not what we have, is all I can say. I'm not saying it's not on the rise, I'm saying we don't know. The gaps are just too large.
So the data isn't good enough to show what the Europe-wide long-term trend is, but can we draw conclusions about any individual countries there?
Yes, the numbers are quite good for some countries. In Germany, for instance, we can see that anti-Semitic acts declined in the decade to 2011 before rising slightly in 2012. In the United Kingdom, they fluctuated up and down over the past 10 years. And in France, which is considered to have some of the worst or most worrying levels of anti-Semitism in Europe... The official data shows that the number of incidents has also fluctuated up and down over the past decade, trending gradually upwards in recent years. But in France, and also in the UK and places like Canada, you can see that although the numbers do go up and down over the past decade, the average level is a fair bit higher than it was in the 1990s.
So that's to say there appears to have been a step change in the numbers of anti-Semitic incidents around the early 2000s. Nona Meyer is president of the French Political Science Association and a professor at Paris' Sciences Po University.
Since 2000, the beginning of the second intifada, the revolt of the Palestinians against the Israeli occupation, we've had an explosion of actions and threats against people identified as Jews. And every time something goes on in the Middle East, the numbers, as they are collected by the police, of actions taken against Jews flare up.
That's the situation in Europe, and it's also worth pointing out that in the United States, which is home to more than half the world's Jews who live outside Israel, statistics from both the FBI and the Jewish organisation the Anti-Defamation League both show a steady long-term decline in anti-Semitic incidents.
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