Can Trump Dismantle Iran’s Nuclear Program | 4.19.25
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What is the Trump administration's approach to Iran's nuclear program?
The Trump administration is aggressively pursuing the full dismantling of Iran's nuclear program, starting the first direct talks with the regime since 2018, with one sit-down already on the books and another on the docket.
In this episode, we talk with an expert on the goals of the negotiations and why President Trump believes this is the right time to force Iran's hand on a deal. I'm Daily Wire Editor-in-Chief John Bickley with Georgia Howe. It's Saturday, April 19th, and this is a weekend edition of Morning Wire.
Who is Ellie Cohanim and what is her role in the Iran talks?
Joining us to discuss the closely watched Iran talks is Ellie Kohanim, Independent Women's Forum senior fellow and former deputy envoy to combat anti-Semitism under President Trump. Ellie, thanks so much for joining us.
Thank you for having me, John.
What happened in the first direct US-Iran talks since 2018?
So let's talk about this first direct contact we've had with the Trump administration and Iran. They had their first preliminary negotiation on Saturday. What do we know about that meeting?
Well, the meeting was a bit of a historic first because it's the first direct talks between the United States and the Islamic Republic of Iran in many, many years. And what we do know from the reporting that has come out is, first of all, both sides have said it was a positive meeting. They've both used very positive language to describe what took place. And there was some reporting indicating that Steve Witkoff, the United States Special Envoy, and the Iranian foreign minister had a handshake together at the end. But interestingly, Axios is reporting that, in fact, there was a 45-minute face-to-face conversation that took place. So that's an interesting development. Certainly face-to-face in a complex negotiation like this is better than
I think it helps to make sure that there is less room to cause confusion and also to drag out negotiations, which is what the Iranians are famous for doing. And I believe it's one of the reasons that President Trump has been pushing very hard for direct negotiations. So that's some of the takeaways. We also know that now they have scheduled follow-up talks for one week. That'll be on Saturday next week. And we understand that the location for talks will no longer be in Oman, but a European capital. I'm hearing reports of Rome. However, the Omanis will still be the interlocutors and participants in the talks.
Is there significance to the location, this idea of moving more west for the second round of talks? Or is this how this often goes, a kind of back and forth or trade-off in terms of territory?
Why is the location of the Iran negotiations significant?
Well, it's interesting that the first round was held in Oman, which was apparently the Iranians' request. The United States had preferred the United Arab Emirates. And so it would seem that perhaps the Trump administration wanted to give the Iranians some sort of a win there. Let's remember that the very fact that the Iranians came to the table is considered an embarrassment in the Iranian culture because this is the regime that from 1979, from its very inception of coming into power, is born of the original sin of taking our American embassy staff hostage. And this is the regime that daily chants death to America in their parliamentary meetings. This is the regime that calls the United States Big Satan. And some of the reporting that came out of Iran was that the supreme leader, the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, apparently had to be convinced to even participate in talks with the United States.
His advisors apparently let him know that they were advising him to participate in these talks because otherwise it looked like there was a very high likelihood that Israel and the United States would strike together. Iran that there might be a war launched against Iran. And so this is all evidence of how difficult it is for the Iranians to come to the table, how much they probably perceive this as an embarrassment for them. And so having it in Oman might have been a small concession to make to the Iranians for the very first round of meetings. But certainly having the next round and perhaps future talks, if it's successful, take place in Europe is far more convenient for Special Envoy Witkoff, for him to travel to the Middle East each time, while he also has other major talks and negotiations in his portfolio, I think was rather an impossible ask of him.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the Trump administration's approach to Iran's nuclear program?
0:03–0:35
2
Who is Ellie Cohanim and what is her role in the Iran talks?
0:35–0:49
3
What happened in the first direct US-Iran talks since 2018?
0:49–2:38
4
Why is the location of the Iran negotiations significant?
2:38–5:07
5
How vulnerable is the Iranian regime today?
5:07–9:44
6
What impact do economic sanctions and military pressure have on Iran?
9:44–12:32
7
What is the public mood inside Iran regarding the regime?
12:32–14:15
Speakers
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