Former CDC Director Breaks Silence on Fauci
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Five years on from the COVID pandemic, shocking details continue to come to light about the degree to which the American people were misled and information was suppressed.
Once we knew that this was engineered to infect humans, we should have known we were in a race.
In today's episode, we sit down with former CDC director Dr. Robert Redfield to discuss his firsthand experience working with Dr. Fauci during the peak of the hysteria. Dr. Redfield shares why he believed from the start that the virus came from a lab, but that information was covered up. I'm Daily Wire executive editor John Bickley with Georgia Howe. This is a weekend edition of Morning Wire. Joining us now is Dr. Robert Redfield, former director of the CDC. Dr. Redfield, thanks for coming on. Thank you very much for having me. So you were serving as the head of the CDC when the COVID pandemic broke out, and you also worked closely with Dr. Fauci before that. What was that experience like?
Well, I had worked with Tony all the way back in the 1980s in AIDS. I was the CDC director when he was the director of Infectious Disease. So I was the CDC director all during the pandemic and a member of the White House task force. So I gave my professional opinion in January. of 2020 that I felt that this was a non-natural occurring virus that was a consequence of scientific research in a laboratory. And I shared that with the president and the committee. Tony took the position that it was from nature, from the wet market. I think there was a lot of evidence that that was not correct. And he's a very smart individual, so I believe that he actually understood that that wasn't correct. And he intentionally helped create what I call a roost that it came from the wet market, largely because NIH was involved, along with other government agencies, of actually funding that laboratory to do this research, which then ended up killing 20 million people.
He was a big advocate of gain-of-function research, where you try to make pathogens more pathogenic and more transmissible. I was a big advocate of not doing gain-of-function research. I wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal a number of years ago, really pushing our nation not to be involved in gain-of-function research. President Trump just recently put another moratorium on gain-of-function research that's really important now if it can be enforced. Fauci wrote an op-ed in 2012 where he talked about the importance of gain-of-function research and why that research had to go forward. And in that op-ed, he said that if the consequence of doing this research is it results in a major pandemic, it's worth the risk.
Well, the reality is it did result in a major pandemic.
Now, you mentioned that there was evidence to suggest this virus did not emerge organically.
What led Dr. Robert Redfield to suspect a lab origin for COVID‑19 early in the pandemic?
What evidence was there?
As a virologist, there's clear evidence actually in the genome of the virus itself. So if you really understand how to read the genome, you can really find out that, wait a minute, this didn't come from nature. For example, as Ray and Paul talked about, there's a furin cleavage site in this virus. And what that does... is it splits the protein so that the binding domain of the virus now preferably recognizes the human receptor but doesn't recognize the bat receptor. And when you look at those 12 nucleotides, they code for... for amino acids. And the amino acid nucleotide sequence that they use, actually, you can have different triplets for different amino acids. And the triplet sequence that are used in this virus are the triplet sequence that is preferred by humans, not bats.
So how does a human-preferred sequence for, say, arginine, how does that get in this virus?
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5 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–3:35
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What led Dr. Robert Redfield to suspect a lab origin for COVID‑19 early in the pandemic?
3:35–6:16
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How did Dr. Redfield describe the genetic evidence that points to engineering of the virus?
6:16–9:29
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What role did Dr. Fauci play in funding gain‑of‑function research at the Wuhan lab?
9:29–13:12
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Why does Dr. Redfield argue the virus’s furin cleavage site is a “smoking gun” for manipulation?
13:12–15:10
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