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We have to remember in the pro-life movement, our mission is to go onto campuses, is to speak the truth nationally that every human is created in the image of our maker and has infinite value and dignity. That is the child in the womb, and that's also her.
College campuses have become ground zero for the fight over abortion, with pro-lifers and abortion activists competing for the hearts and minds of the next generation.
One of the pro-life groups taking their messages to universities is Students for Life Action, and they say they're seeing real results despite serious headwinds.
In this episode, we sit down with the president of the group, Kristen Hawkins, to discuss the pro-life movement's successes and setbacks on college campuses across the country. I'm Georgia Howe with Daily Wire executive editor John Bickley. This is a weekend edition of Morning Wire.
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Chapter 2: What is the significance of college campuses in the abortion debate?
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Kristen, thank you so much for coming on.
Thanks for having me.
So you do a lot of campus outreach regarding the pro-life issue. And of course, we know that young women in general tend to be pretty pro-choice. But is that true at the college level? What are you seeing there?
There's a lot of fascinating trends going on with Gen Z versus Gen Y. I've been doing this long enough. We've actually transitioned a whole generation, right? From the snowflake millennials to now Gen Z. I mean, I think it's true. Certainly when we look at the demographics, young men have gone right and they've shifted hard right. In fact, Charlie's, I think it was his last TV show.
He was on Laura the night before he was murdered. He and I were texting Charlie. There had been a study that came out in September from, I think it was ABC, and they did it of youth voters who voted for Trump versus Kamala.
And it shows kind of what we're seeing on campuses pretty accurately, where they did women and men who voted for Trump, young women and men who voted for Kamala, and the young men who voted for Trump. They were asked to rank one through 13 what success in their life looked like. For young men who voted for President Trump, number one marker of success was having children.
I think marriage was like third or fourth. For women who voted for President Trump, young women, it was like four for having kids. It was the fourth marker of success. For men who voted for Kamala Harris, it was 10. For women who voted for Kamala Harris, it was 12 out of 13. The only thing that beat out having kids was social media influencer was 13 for all four demographics.
And so I think that shows you what we're facing on college campuses right now, where we have seen this shift of young men. who will vocally say they oppose abortion. We have younger women who've moved somewhat conservative who will kind of talk, but then you have this opposite of the pendulum where you just have unhinged And we've all seen these girls on TikTok and on Twitter, right?
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Chapter 3: How is the pro-life movement adapting to Gen Z's values?
I'm already freaking out and having nightmares about the midterms. Right. We have to win women. It is. some of the conversations on our side of the aisle right now, on X, for example, and I, my algorithm's all whacked, right? Of who I, you know, based on what I do. But it is unhelpful to have some of these conversations that are happening and how we're
attacking these women because they are our mission too they are our neighbors and yes we can vehemently disagree and tell them we disagree like yes voting for Zoran Mondami will destroy New York City as we're all now seeing right but we need to be able to have conversations with them and a reasonable respectful mayor because they're actually part of our mission too is to win them over
And just speaking as like a formerly liberal young woman, I would say that is the linchpin issue that will flip a female voter. Because, you know, people don't like high taxes, you know, and they're not passionate about it, you know. But they are passionate when someone says you're being attacked. Yeah. Your rights are being attacked. Your life will be over if you do not have this specific right.
So I would say like that – If you can figure out how to massage your message for that group, like, that's your key to the whole— Yeah, and it's so important.
The problem is that I'm seeing right now is I'm getting attacked on my own side. Like, oh, you're a raging feminist. There's too many women leaders in the pro-life movement. We need more men. There was literally a podcast recently where the person said, when women fight, it's ugly. You can't fight Moloch, Satan. With women. I was like, shut the hell up.
You wear loafers and you're in a freaking podcast room. I'm like out on the ground getting like sunburned on campuses and getting spit at and yelled at and death threats. So like, I don't know, join me on a campus and do the hard work. But it's weird because, you know, there's like this division within the movement.
I think within the conservative movement, we got to check ourselves a little bit of like these women are not.
our enemies, they are our friends, they are our sisters, they are our neighbors, they're part of our mission too just as much as these babies that we're trying to save because if we don't save her, if we can't convince her that she has value and worth and dignity, it's almost impossible to convince her that the temporarily inconvenient child in her womb for nine months
also has value and dignity and is worth sacrificing for. If she doesn't think her life is worth sacrificing and somebody else sacrificing for her.
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