Keeping Men Out of Women’s Sports | 2.8.25
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What executive order did Trump sign regarding sports?
Donald Trump signed an executive order on Wednesday banning men from competing in women's sports. The move fulfills a major Trump campaign promise and comes as a growing percentage of Americans support the idea of protecting women's and girls' spaces and activities.
In this episode, we speak with Jennifer Say, the founder of XXXY Athletics, about the impact of Wednesday's monumental executive order and where the movement goes from here. I'm Daily Wire Editor-in-Chief John Bickley with Georgia Howe. It's Saturday, February 8th, and this is a weekend edition of Morning Wire. Joining us now is founder of XXXY Athletics, Jennifer Say.
Who is Jennifer Sey and what is her role in women's sports advocacy?
Jennifer, first of all, thank you so much for joining us again.
Thanks for having me.
So look, you were at Trump's signing of the executive order. It's called Keeping Men Out of Women's Sports. You were there because your team has really shaken things up on this issue. You've also gotten a lot of attention this week in particular. You released a short film. You've had some commercials that have really gone viral, including one specifically calling out Nike. So we wanted to talk to you about all of this. First, what have you seen so far in terms of reaction to Trump's executive order?
How did people react to Trump's executive order on women's sports?
Well, I mean, the reaction has been quite thrilling. I was lucky to be in the room yesterday, got a prime spot right behind him. In fact, he handed me his papers after he was done reciting the list of people to thank. I mean, everyone in the room, we're so thrilled. You know, we've been pushing for this for many, many years for basic common sense, logic, fairness for women and girls. So to have the opportunity to witness the signing of the EO is thrilling and we're all super excited. We also know we still have work to do. I've talked with Riley about this. I've talked with lawyers who are experts on Title IX. He said it in the room yesterday. He said this impacts federally funded institutions and sports that take place within federally funded institutions, so K-12 schools, universities. But twice as many kids participate in what is called the Olympic movement, which is governed by the U.S. Olympic Committee. That doesn't mean you're an Olympic level. I was an elite gymnast. As a young person, I started competing at six.
I was not competing at the highest level. But the competitions I was in were governed by the U.S. Olympic Committee and USA Gymnastics. That has not impacted. And they've not made a move yet.
What challenges remain in protecting women's sports?
Yeah. Yeah.
And then you have the International Olympic Committee, which is clearly outside of the auspices of the executive order. And beyond that, you have one more thing. You have all these private races. You know, I'll cite the Boston Marathon, which has its own board. It's privately run. It's all private company funded. They just qualified a man in the women's division. They can continue to do whatever they want. And so this landscape is incredibly fractured. And my sort of intention in starting this brand 10 months ago, XXXY Athletics, was to change the culture and give people the confidence that it's appropriate to stand up and say, we're not going to take this anymore. And I think when the people do that, all of these other governing bodies and races change.
that are going to have to change their tune because the people will demand it. And I just feel like what the EO did was it knocked the door down for us to do that. And Trump has passed us the baton and we need to take it and run through the next door and the next door and the next door because this is not over yet.
How are brands like XXXY Athletics influencing public opinion?
You know, our listeners, they might remember our interview with you over the summer after you launched your new brand. And we've been watching it with interest. This is something that aligns with the Daily Wire's focus on the transgender agenda. Our parent company's launch of Jeremy's Razors back in 2022 and then Lady Ballers the next year was really a part of that focus. The public messaging part of this is very interesting and is very relevant given that we're coming up on the Super Bowl. Many people watch the Super Bowl more for the ads than the actual games these days. But regarding the messaging potential with brands like yours and Jeremy's Razors, what have you seen in terms of response to your messaging in the public sphere?
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What executive order did Trump sign regarding sports?
0:03–0:45
2
Who is Jennifer Sey and what is her role in women's sports advocacy?
0:45–1:16
3
How did people react to Trump's executive order on women's sports?
1:16–2:28
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What challenges remain in protecting women's sports?
2:28–3:25
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How are brands like XXXY Athletics influencing public opinion?
3:25–4:40
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What impact has Jennifer Sey's advertising campaign had?
4:40–10:44
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