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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Colorado is trying to silence free speech again. A state law forces businesses to use customers' preferred pronouns even if they're biologically inaccurate. With the help of Alliance Defending Freedom, a Christian bookstore, and a sports apparel company are challenging the law, but a court recently ruled against them.
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For years, artificial intelligence was treated like science fiction or a Silicon Valley party trick. Then almost overnight, it began writing code, designing proteins, and raising a question that suddenly feels less than theoretical. Can machines actually think?
In his new book, The Infinity Machine, journalist Sebastian Malaby traces how AI moved from academic obscurity to the center of science, business, and geopolitics.
And at the heart of that story is a man named Demis Hassabis, the chess prodigy and Google DeepMind co-founder whose work helped launch the modern AI race.
Malibi joins us today to explain the human story about how Hassabis got us here, how AI is already changing, and why the next breakthroughs may be far bigger than chatbots.
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Chapter 2: How did AI transition from science fiction to reality?
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Joining us now is Sebastian Malaby, an acclaimed journalist and author, a contributing columnist at The Washington Post and senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. He's also a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, and he's got a new book, The Infinity Machine, which takes us inside the race to build artificial intelligence and the people that are trying to shape its future.
You've got a lot going on, Sebastian. Great to have you on. Great to be with you. So first, are we really at the beginning of a scientific revolution with AI? That's what a lot of people believe. Is this true or are we just in a commercial boom that looks bigger than it is?
No, I think it's a real scientific revolution. I think it's probably bigger than the industrial revolution, although that was enormous. It's more like the invention of consciousness. Last time we had a new form of intelligence that came into the world, it was human intelligence. And now we have machine intelligence.
So bigger than the industrial revolution, that's obviously a huge claim. And as you highlight in your book, the scientific arena appears to be poised for perhaps the most important advancements with the use of AI. Before we go further, you've written about the AlphaFold, which has a major scientific application. What exactly is AlphaFold and why does it matter so much?
Sure. AlphaFold was a system invented in 2020 by DeepMind, the Google AI subsidiary in London. And what it does is it unravels all of the shapes of proteins in nature, like 200 million different intricate protein shapes, so that you can see how they look, and therefore you can figure out what kind of compounds might bind onto them. This is useful for building new medicines, for example.
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