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Morning Wire

The Ohio Fraud Investigation That Couldn’t Be Ignored

09 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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Colorado is trying to silence free speech again. A state law forces businesses to use customers' preferred pronouns even if they're biologically inaccurate. With the help of Alliance Defending Freedom, a Christian bookstore, and a sports apparel company are challenging the law, but a court recently ruled against them.

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They appealed the ruling, and with ADF's help, they'll keep fighting another attempt by Colorado to skirt the First Amendment. Learn more about how you can support free speech by texting WIRE to 83848 or going to joinadf.com slash WIRE.

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30.018 - 45.732 John Bickley

The Daily Wire exposed a massive fraud scheme this week in Ohio, amounting to billions of dollars in Medicaid benefits potentially being scammed. And Vice President J.D. Vance is already taking action.

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45.762 - 56.305 Georgia Howe

In this episode, we go behind the scenes with the investigator who brought this fraud to light, The Daily Wire's own Luke Rosiak. We'll discuss how he found the fraud and who tried to stop him along the way.

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56.666 - 62.438 John Bickley

I'm Daily Wire executive editor John Bickley with Georgia Howe. This is a weekend edition of Morning Wire.

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The state of Colorado is at it again, trying to silence free speech. A law in Colorado forces businesses to use customers' preferred pronouns, even if they're biologically inaccurate, and even if using those incorrect pronouns would violate a person's religious beliefs or conscience. That's a violation of free speech.

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But as Colorado has proven time and again, it has little concern for the First Amendment. Alliance Defending Freedom is challenging the law on behalf of a Christian bookstore, and a Colorado-based sports apparel company. But a court recently ruled against them.

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With ADF's help, they appealed the ruling, and they'll continue fighting to ensure Colorado doesn't get away with this next attempt to skirt the First Amendment. Your gift helps protect free speech in cases like this all over the country. And for a limited time, your first gift to ADF is doubled by a special matching grant, while funds last.

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Chapter 2: What is the main topic of the Ohio Medicaid fraud investigation?

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179.547 - 197.269 John Bickley

Joining us now to talk about his latest investigative series is Daily Wire investigative reporter Luke Rosiak. Luke, great to have you on. Great to be with you. So first of all, how did this investigation into fraud, alleged fraud in Ohio, get started? What drew you to Ohio to investigate fraud in the first place?

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197.401 - 217.089 Luke Rosiak

Well, I've been fascinated by Medicaid for many years because people pointed this out when Doge was in its infancy, that they're kind of nibbling around the edges in discretionary funding, but a huge portion of the federal budget is actually locked up in what they call non-discretionary funding, things like Medicaid. And we were led to believe that there's just nothing you can do about that.

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217.149 - 235.322 Luke Rosiak

It just is what it is. The government has always been kind of secretive about what went on in Medicaid. It was just a black box, which was a little strange because we're not really interested in prying into people's personal medical information. We don't want the names of patients. But if we're paying for something, it would be helpful to know what it is.

235.302 - 256.618 Luke Rosiak

And so Doge, as one of its last actions before it kind of left the limelight, they released this database and it was something like 40 gigabytes. It was a huge data set and you kind of had to know computer programming to dive in. But it was a game changer. I mean, I've never seen anything like it. It was a fundamental breakthrough in terms of government transparency.

256.598 - 272.599 Luke Rosiak

And it just let you see what companies were billing government millions of dollars for services that are not even like regular doctor's offices, like extra stuff. And so it got to the heart of a lot of the fraud that we've heard about in places like Minnesota today.

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Because those are actually all the result of Tim Walz's what they call Medicaid waivers that's let certain states do things that are well beyond the medical treatment that Medicaid was really designed for.

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And so the first step in this investigative process was essentially building this massive computer server and doing a lot of programming that would let me mine through all these records adding up to billions of dollars a year.

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