The Bond Market Selloff is Showing up in Earnings Reports
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Why are bond yields spiking to 2007‑level highs and what does it mean for investors?
The bond market is talking a lot louder. Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing starts now. Welcome to Molly Fool's Hidden General Investing. I'm your host, Tyler Crow. Today I'm joined by longtime Fool Contributors, Blue Whiteman and Matt Frankl. Earnings season is still happening. We're winding down. We're going to cover a couple earnings reports today from Klarna and Home Depot. But before we do, guys, the bond market is moving a lot more than it normally is. And it's moving in a direction that most people aren't a big fan of right now. Bond yields are the dividend yield basically of a bond. Or how much it's valued is rising, which basically means that people are not as willing to pay as much for bonds. And this isn't just happening in the US either.
Yields on government debt in many countries are hitting 20-year highs, right about, you know, 2007 numbers, which When people hear that number 2007, a lot of alarm bells start to go off because we all remember what happened in 2008 through 2009 when we had high bond yields and the mortgage market started to do things that we didn't want it to do. And of course we got the Great Recession. Not saying that that is happening now, but we are seeing some of the highest yields we have seen in a long time. So, guys, what is going on? Why is this all happening at once?
The last time the 30-year treasury was this high, like you said, Lehman Brothers was still one of the largest Wall Street firms. It's been a little while. If I'm a retiree and I need to shift some of my portfolio to fixed income, I'm loving this, but for most of us, it's not a great thing. This isn't the feds doing the long-dated end of the yield curve, meaning the, you know, 20-year, 30-year treasuries, it's primarily market driven. Remember in 2023, when the Fed rapidly raised interest rates to combat inflation and short-term interest rates spiked over 5%, the 30-year yield was actually lower then than it is now. If investors uh expect rates to stay higher for longer, if there's added uncertainty, let's say a Fed chair who doesn't believe in forward guidance, just for one example, or if debt issuance is unusually high, like a combination of a lot of government
Government borrowing and a surge in corporate debt, it can push long-term interest rates higher. So you're right that this is global. This is not just the US issue. Japan's tenure is at its highest yield since 1996. UK's 30-year bond is approaching a six percent yield. I can go on, but investors expect more compensation on top of inflation to hold long-term bonds because there is simply more supply to go around.
Matt's right, this is not the Fed's doing, but it's also kind of the Fed's doing, which is kind of the problem here. There are two things going on. First, the market is looking around the industrial world and seeing no end to budget deficits. What it's happening in the US, it's happening in Europe. Higher debt means more risk. So investors are asking to be compensated for the added risk. That's how the bond market works. But secondly, and this is where the Fed comes in, there is this. Lingering worry about political independence of the Fed and the Fed's ability to act if needed to raise rates and combat inflation.
How is the global bond‑selloff affecting AI‑heavy tech companies like META, GOOG and MSFT?
I hope those fears are overstated, but I think they are justified. And until the Fed proves otherwise, it is in the penalty box with investors. The credibility of the Fed is probably its best tool for keeping rates down or to at least tamper rate expectations. So to the extent that it is not credible right now or less credible than it was, that's a big thing driving. The 30 year in the US. Around the world, there's country-specific issues going on everywhere, but gotta remember, this is a global competition for funds. If the Fed is paying more, it forces competition, it forces everybody else to pay a little more because they all want to attract flows. Couple that with what's going on in corporates, Tyler, which I think we'll get to next.
There's just a lot of people battling for bond funds. right now and that is causing rates to go up to try and entice people to choose them.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
Why are bond yields spiking to 2007‑level highs and what does it mean for investors?
0:02–2:59
2
How is the global bond‑selloff affecting AI‑heavy tech companies like META, GOOG and MSFT?
2:59–6:17
3
What did Klarna’s earnings reveal about its revenue growth and profit swing?
6:17–9:00
4
Why did Klarna cut its full‑year revenue guidance and how will that impact the stock?
9:00–13:15
5
How are higher long‑term rates influencing corporate debt issuance for AI data‑center spend?
13:15–17:41
6
What were the key takeaways from Home Depot’s earnings in a frozen housing market?
17:41–22:22
7
How does the current bond‑market environment shape the outlook for housing‑related stocks?
22:22–22:40