Within the Pentagon, there’s an elite unit dedicated to bringing Silicon Valley innovation to slow-moving Washington. It’s called Unit X. Chris Kirchoff and Raj Shah are the two men who built that unit. They join Ricky Mulvey for a conversation on the changing defense landscape and what it’s like to bring a venture capital mindset to bureaucrats. They also discuss: What it’s like to disrupt Washington’s “primes” Supersonic drones, EVOTLs, and How investors and lawmakers can distinguish “statistical techniques” from genuine AI Companies mentioned: NOC, BA, GOOG, GOOGL, JOBY, PLTR, TSM Host: Ricky Mulvey Guest: Christopher Kirchoff, Raj Shah Producer: Mary Long Engineer: Tim Sparks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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