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Chapter 1: What are the hosts' thoughts on airplane etiquette?
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No, I don't sleep with it in anything. And I think of Nina always wearing her hair in a tight... pony in bed.
And I feel sad for her head. I put it down lower last night, actually. But the thing with Nina is if you have it out, she's just such a hot mess. It sticks to her face, you know? Yeah, I know.
You get used to being a hot... But like, yeah, I get it. She's got thick hair too.
Oh, it's so thick. Yeah, I'm so bad with it. I neglect her and I don't wash it.
You could do a low pony. A low pony? And then that's what I would have done when I was... like there was a stage where i would wear it in a pony because of hot mess and My hair was quite long and I'd have it in a really low side sort of plait and that was quite comfy.
Yeah, we do a mixture of things. You probably just saw me neglect her for a few days.
No, I didn't. You didn't neglect her at all.
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Chapter 2: How do the hosts manage their children's tantrums?
how I want to interview a pilot or a plane engineer or someone on the podcast. Because I was thinking about, like, the size of the wings are probably huge. And I was like, I want to stand under the wing. Because you don't think of that when you see these long planes. Like, it's like a shark or shaped like a fish or something. like a whale, a whale with eyes, which is the captain's cockpit.
Is that what it's called? Do you know what I'm talking about? Like the plane looks like a, it's like long with like, and then there's wings, which are the fins. And then the front of the plane is the eyes of the shark.
I've got, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then there's just all these people in the body of the whale. And there's these fins that fly. I just think it's so weird.
And the fins don't flap.
Yeah, but they kind of move.
With the body of the plane?
No, they can go ā a part of the wing goes up. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then I'm like ā A vent.
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Chapter 3: What insights do the hosts share about their recent travels?
lot you know i don't think you've got so much it's just that you're just like shoes and like school bags and then rugby bags and rugby boots and headgears and mouth guards and hats and socks and all the things, but I managed to sort of like tidy my outside nook before my coffee this morning, which was nice. He had gone to get blood.
So I actually had my coffee without my phone on my outside nook and Tay had his breakfast out with me. And that was really lovely. So, and then I was driving to school and it was just me and him because three of my kids are not at school today, which I actually could, that could have sent me into a spin, but I'm not letting that, which was a great. One. Win for my brain.
And it was so lovely just having my one child in the car this morning. Like, how good was that? And he's so cute. I said to him, you know, I was so sad leaving my sisters and my family and my friends. Felt really depressed, babe, but I was really excited to see you. And, you know, and he said, I said, I think I need to, like, make more effort with my friends here.
Mm-hmm.
And then he sort of suggested a few of the people in my life that I should make an effort with. And I was like, you are so sweet. Like, how cute. And then I went into the school and talked to the office. And it was good. I feel a bit more connected. And I feel more positive than I thought I would feel.
Yeah, that's good. It's a hard one, eh? Because, you know, we had a question come through, like, would you ever move home? Yesterday you were kind of feeling, like, the timing of that question based on yesterday and how you felt is probably a bit different to how you'd feel about it today. Because...
You know, it's not really the reality to come home, have all of us home, plus our aunties, our other extended family, see everyone every day, have lots of exciting things on to throw in the mix as well. Like, that's just not real life. And you're right.
And you said that, you text me that, and you're so wise, like, that our aunties were there, which made it so special because we grew up with our aunties and Jess did a post on Move It Mum on Instagram yesterday or maybe Facebook too, but we... Mum has two sisters and we've always had a very close bond with them, haven't we really?
Like we love them dearly and they were down, which is another reason why I wanted to go into Christchurch as well because they were there and it's not often that... And then because I was coming, Shah booked. And how fun that the six of us, because we all get on very well. We've all got close connections with each of these people.
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Chapter 4: How do the hosts feel about the invention of airplanes?
Yeah, she's pretty amazing. I was like, maybe I need to start parenting more like mom, which I don't know. I don't know what that means.
No, you probably do share some parenting similarities anyway. I do think so. How do you think you're not like her?
Oh, like buying, I've bought Rico alcohol a couple of times. She didn't do that, that kind of thing. But then I don't know. It's different personalities, different situation, different life, different stages. But she's the same. She said to me before, I can't really help you because it's so different now, parenting. I was thinking about that, like... you know, having to manage the boys' phones.
Like, that's just an added mental load that parents back in the day didn't have to manage. But then there's that stress of, like, our auntie was talking about her when our cousin was 15 and he didn't, you know, he was a big partier and it caused her a lot of stress because there was no phone to keep in touch with where he was. So, like, don't know.
I know. And as we discussed though, like everyone, every parent is doing the best job they can, but you particularly just, you know, it's, it's really relentless, tiring, exhausting to. be the best parent you want to be, you know, for example, the managing the phone use and stuff like that. Like you could just let it go and just they can do whatever. And a lot of people would be fine with that.
And a lot of parents would be fine with that, but you're not. And that just, you know, to do parenting the way you want to do it is extra hard too.
Yeah.
I'm trying to be a bit more relaxed into my parenting and enjoy it more because a friend of mine that I saw for the first time and met for the first time that I've been working with, who's been helping me and Dan, who had a stage four, I think it was a stage four breast cancer diagnosis, maybe not stage four, breast cancer diagnosis, which then turned into leukemia.
She had breast cancer, got through that and then got leukemia and then had to have a transplant. So she lives in Wellington. she was like, I think you need to kind of just try and enjoy it a bit more. Like you're so stressed and like you've got four, you know, you always, there's always a bit of a negative energy around that. And like, I'm like, yeah, I know, but it's really hard.
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Chapter 5: What do the hosts think about the evolution of airplane food?
We need to kind of teach them how they feel with that and give them a bit more like ownership. And I'm like, okay, so there's a lot I could talk about this on this topic, but I'm not going to because I realize it's probably quite boring. But I've taken off, I don't manage, I'm not like turning their phones off at nine o'clock now.
And last night when I got home, they were on the kitchen bench on charge. And I go to bed and I have to just hope that they're not going to go and use their phones. And if I catch them, then they know there's a consequence, like they will lose their phone the next day. If they do it twice, they lose their phone for two days and that kind of thing. So I just have to give them more chance to ā
be in self-management yeah management of their own self instead of mum doing it all and then suddenly they get to 18 and they get this free reign of like oh and so hopefully they can now anyway the minute I did that it made me feel more like not as stressed yeah Yeah. I said to Dan last night, like, have they been, you know, going to bed or have they been using their phone?
He said, I don't know. And I'm like, kind of like, that's kind of fine. He said they've been getting up and going to school and going to work. So, and Rico had good, the boss that he worked with, he did his first week of work experience last week, was all complimentary of him. Louis got his A and his, you know, exam. So he's fine. So just let it go.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's also just like, so, I mean, whether, obviously their brains are not developed like ours are now, but like, I just think for life.
That's what I think, that's what I, that's what like I've always had in the back of my head is like, I need to kind of protect their brains and manage their, manage them because their brains are not as, not developed like then, you know, they're not adults yet. And there's so much going on with their hormones and stuff.
But then I think as a 20 year old, you're still, as a 40 year old, we're still navigating that. You could argue the same thing. Like there's so many people that scroll on their phone late at night and don't get quality sleep.
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Chapter 6: How do the hosts navigate parenting challenges?
I think someone when I first started personal training, it was the boss actually that took me through my like practical hours was he was really like a colorful, eclectic kind of guy. Is this in Sydney? Yeah, it was in Sydney. He owned the gym, co-owned the gym. And he was like, just remember, the more you know, the more you think you don't know. And it really hits me.
So the more you know, the more you think you don't know. You get insecure about the fact that there's so much to know. Oh, yeah. Do you know what I mean? Kind of. Add to that kind of social media.
The more I know, the better I am. Yeah, that's good. I feel like I've got so much more wisdom now that I just back it till the cows come home.
Yeah, I think I'm hyper aware of the fact, and social media rubs this in for me, it's like hyper aware of like you could find an argument for literally any side of anything. Yeah. I mean, okay, for example, fitness is good for you. You can't argue otherwise. But there are so many nuances to so many things. Wow, I don't think I've ever said that word out loud.
I know what you mean. Like there's an argument to like... Everything. Raising your heart rate when you're pregnant. Like someone will find something for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. But you know, you do well at backing. You do well with... Offering like a flexible approach to it as well, though. Yeah, I suppose so. More of a caring nature.
You present with, you know, you present with a tone, an understanding tone. Yeah. Hey, what was I going to say? I can't remember. I was going to say something. Okay.
What are you doing, sister? I'm worried about the state of my laptop battery and I can't write this minute. I can find my charger right now, so bear with.
What can I tell you guys? I'm just going to go back to the plane because I really love plane food.
Oh, yeah.
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Chapter 7: What are the hosts' views on managing screen time for kids?
I never. Nah, Dore loves them. Someone like gave us like a 24 pack of them or left them here or something like that. Yeah. And like Dore had a supply and every time we had a takeaway, he'd like get his Coke Zero out. Loves it.
Why? I said to Sia, are you sure you don't want a normal Coke? Isn't that much nicer? She was like, nah, no different.
Nah, no different.
I was like, okay. So I felt so funny having a can of Coke on the road trip.
Did you drink the whole thing? Yes. That's hectic. I don't think I've ever finished a whole can.
And then on the second flight, I got another soda.
because they were mini ones and i got you got given just a snack and it was a similar to the cheese and cracker combo but cheese and hummus i mean crackers and hummus yum i know and the man next to me took it but he didn't have it and i'm like hit us up bro i'll have it i kind of was like i want it but there wasn't enough cracker to the hummus combo and i was not going to use my finger to get the rest of the hummus because that's nothing worse when you order like
You know, like when we went to Little High the other night, a few weeks ago now, and while we were waiting for our food, which was taking so long and our kids were starving, I got like a bread from an Indian kind of shop, like a flatbread with dips and stuff. So it came with like literally like six or seven condiments and not enough bread.
bread i mean or why buy a restaurant meal and you don't get bread but you get a lot of condiment saucy dip on top of the meat dish or on top of the around the plate you know the decoration the de la colatage not the de la colatage that's wow that's not the right bones um I can't think of the word.
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Chapter 8: What reflections do the hosts have on their family dynamics?
And then I had the mints and nachos. Like, God, I just can't ā that's just like my favorite. Like mints in a bowl with corn chips, I cannot get enough of. It's just my favorite. And he made that because he knew it was like ā My favourite?
Poor Bo. Poor Bo. Were you like, oh, poor Bo? No, I think of people like a lovely girl I sit next to sometimes at the swimming pool who listens to the podcast. I really enjoy talking to her and she's vegetarian. And I just think, I only discovered she's a vegetarian. Who's this? Just a girl that I talk to at the swimming pool sometimes.
And I just think some people must just not relate to our mince chat at all.
No, but I'm happy to have vegetarian nachos.
Yeah, lentil dal. Beautiful.
Just any kind of. No, but not dull. I'd rather like a Mexican bean mix with my nachos. Macho nachos. What's that called? Macho nachos. Can I just tell you a cute text I got from my little second child? He's been calling me and my phone's on do not disturb, which I'm very pleased about. Well done.
Mommy, mama, please, please can you lend me like $10 for snacks and you can take it off the money for my grades because we paid him some money for getting his A's. Well done. And then I said, okay, darling. And he wrote back, thanks. Kiss, hug, kiss, hug. That's pretty cute from a 14 year old. Yeah. He's actually got the day off because there's a really big fight UFC. He's really into it.
And he had arranged with his father last week. It's the last week of school, so they've done all their tests and exams and stuff. And so he's having to watch this. And he's going now to the supermarket to buy himself some snacks to watch the UFC.
Oh, that's pretty cute. Lightweight, 12 o'clock, 12 o'clock.
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