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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Hi Lisa Jane Fong, yep. are we feeling channeling some grumpy energy this morning between us i just feel quite flat yeah i had this talk with cursed a few weeks ago she's like do you ever get that do you ever get just like a real flat i was like yeah definitely i do um and sometimes you can't explain it hey i feel like i've been flat for a few days in a row which is kind of dumb
Chapter 2: What challenges do mothers face when feeling flat?
Yeah. And like you meant and really confusing when it's at a stage of your cycle where you kind of are not justified to feel flat.
And I feel tired from both physically and mentally.
Your weekends are never chill. So you have that, don't you? You know, it's just so much back to back.
So they're not chill. But when I'm at home, I, so yesterday I, we were out early for rugby reps and then we came home for like. maybe 45 minutes and then back out to AFL. But I was thinking if we're home, they'll just have the TV on and they'll be bored. So it's not bad to have those things on. So I'm kind of like, I'd rather be outside and, you know, watching them play sport really.
Well, it is tiring, yeah. Yeah, pretty exhausting for you. Organising the rooms and clothes and washing. Like, honestly, the washing is just, like, never-ending. I just, I cannot stand it.
You've got a really good-sized laundry.
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Chapter 3: How do busy weekends affect family dynamics?
Do you do what I do and have it – no, you would never. This is a dumb question. Like I leave folded laundry on my laundry bench. I'm just thinking you've got quite a bit of space there. Do you ever leave folded – no, I know the answer to the question. You don't just leave piles folded on the bench, do you? It always goes straight away.
Why do you – where do you – no way. Where do you put your – my routine is washing goes – Washing done, washing goes out on the line. Washing comes in, thrown on the couch. There's this one couch that it all gets thrown on. And then I get around to folding it and put it into piles. And what is so intimidating about folding my washing is it's just all the same color. And whose is this?
And what boy? And it's actually a fucking head doer. It's actually like. It's a real neg of all same gender, isn't it? It's so annoying. Like you have no idea how annoying it is. And like, you've got to try and remember what brand, like each child kind of has a different brand undies because it's just so much easier if they've got different brands. So what brands are we rolling?
So Louis has Calvin Klein and Nobby. Wow. Elitist. Rico has, yeah. But you can get them kind of cheap in punches from TKM. Outlet, sport store, yeah. Yeah. And then they're all kind of similar. And then Rico has one called like...
or something he's just more about comfort he wouldn't give a hoot about what brand it was for undies Louis more like you know Carlos has tradie and Tana has knobbies so he's in like patterny kind of ones yeah sort of his plain ones so that's that but like school uniform shirts and rugby tops and shorts
uh so formal uniform normal uniform and like sports uniform and so then they then I could put them in piles and then they literally stay there until I've actually screamed at them a hundred times and given them a threat before they go to their rooms and then Dan and I were listening to a podcast which shut the front door groundbreaking and it was about like um
the mom not feeling appreciated that she does the washing she cleans the washing folds the washing and then she puts it at the bottom of the stairs for the kids to take up but they would never take it up and then she had a chat with them like this is really it makes me feel like you don't you're not appreciative righty righty right
And I'm like, wow, I leave them, like they can sit on the couch in folded piles and they come and get their shit from the pile. Like they'll come in in the morning and they'll get their PE top and they won't take their pile. And then the piles will be messy. And I'm like, what? So then that's, I'm just letting you in on the secret of my house.
Is that like, I don't think my kids are that great anymore. I think they were so much better when they were little. And so then I scream at them and you're into them and they take them. Right now, there's Louie's pile of washing on the couch when I left this morning. There's Louie, but he's not home. He stayed out last night with friends. Everyone's taking their pile, but there's towels folded.
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Chapter 4: What strategies can help manage household chores like laundry?
Shminkles. Lisa and I just before we got on were talking about insecurities. I have one that I just really have to voice now that we're talking about that, which is this like heavy bottom jaw. Like I'm dominant in the bottom part of my mouth. You know this, eh? I'm sort of like that. Like the bottom is always really dominant. And I just put something on Instagram talking. So in real life...
So in real life.
Less dominant.
It's just when you do, it's just when you do an Instagram story, but I'm the same. I always, cause you try and it's such a head to a guy's like, we try not to care about what we look like, but it's really hard. And so you, you, you talk to the camera in a way that you feel most natural possibly. And it might appear that when you, your most natural, um,
angle is bottom drawer dominant but like fuck i was telling jess that i always do the same like pretty face on my on my like workout end of work you try to make the same sometimes do you do this sometimes you'll do an instagram story and you'll know that you don't look great but you're just like who cares because who cares and then you're just so gutted it's there but you can wait 24 hours thank god it's gone oh
And you don't want to delete it because you're like, no, I'm not deleting it because I don't care. Yeah. And then you're so happy when it's gone.
Yeah. Yeah. I relate.
Yeah. Actually, I un-pinned.
Unpinned. What do you unpin?
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Chapter 5: How do parenting styles influence children's behavior?
So on a weekday, weird. Yeah. What about like a Thursday night?
And then.
I've got my workout on Friday. I was thinking maybe. Wednesday night. And then they bust the next day. Yeah. Do that. And then it's less busy, more cheaper hotel. should I actually like, that's all I want to do on a month. That's all. That would be my favorite.
You deserve it. Do it.
But then I don't sleep. And then you live in guilt.
Fuck. Motherfucker. Sorry. Let's not swear. I forwarded Dora post last night. I don't know. You want to go to a hotel? I, I sent this to Dora. You know, you take all this content of your kids and you, especially when they're younger, but like you've got, yeah, at least so now, cause you also don't want.
Oh, that was another thing I thought when you were doing the workout, like I was pissed off because I was like, my kids just are in bed now but they're never out they're not playing Like Nina was like, come on, Black Bo, keep playing. And I was like, so sad that I don't have that anymore. And you're probably like, oh, I can't wait till they just stay in bed. Such is life, eh?
I know, head door. Kids change fast, their voices, their answers, their whole world, these little clips. So I sent this to door. This is a free present for me. Film these children answering these questions and just like write me a card and do this.
and like if they're little like questions like what does mum always say to you what is mum good at what makes mum happy what's your favorite thing to do with mum how does mum make me feel and then like if they're older what has mum taught you that you'll remember i mean you know you to get an obliging kid is the first problem that you come up with but what's your favorite memory with mum what does she do that really matters but she might not realize like i mean i
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Chapter 6: What are the emotional impacts of children's sports activities?
Like all her mates have lost their teeth. She's just this, you know, I call it a stroke face that she does. That face where she cannot contain her excitement on her face when she looks at you. Oh my God. I knew that she was just excited for school because even though her brother's not there, she's nearly seven.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's late, eh? Because that's my kids too. Oh yeah, all her mates have got like four.
I think one of them was maybe eight. Yeah, I think Tay was eight. I keep telling you, you might be like Tay.
But I had this thought on the weekend, by the way, that my first weekend of Saturday sport, and I've lived in a world of dread for the day to come, and I had this sort of, this kind of, not epiphany, realisation that, you know, when you are in the depths of young children, and you, I know you know this very well,
the weekends come around and like the weekends are sort of no different and they're not that they can feel flat because you've parented all weekend all week with children at home because you know well for those of us who had children at home and didn't work full-time you know what I mean um They're not in daycare every day. And then the weekends is the same.
And you kind of look around going like, what should we do? What do we do? We need plans.
That's why routine is quite good. Like we, Dan and I used to always go out for, you know, we'd go for a drive and get a takeaway coffee. Yeah. And we'd take, you know.
Yeah.
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Chapter 7: How can mothers find balance in their relationships?
I told you about it, didn't I?
I think so, but I don't remember.
It's pretty intense. I mean, it's a Christian couple. He's actually since died. It was called Cultivating a Happy Marriage. A friend of mine messaged me, sent me a message with it. And it's these two married couple and the actual picture of the podcast looks like they're part of a cult and it's not very, you would look at it and go, oh my God.
But the messages behind their podcast, like the topics, were so, I really rated. I thought it was really good. They do reference the Bible quite a bit, which I found parts a bit annoying. But the actual, I thought it was really, really good for marriage. Try and make your marriage good or work. Try and make your marriage continue to work.
And so I actually sent it to my husband and said, I've just listened to this. There is quite a lot of like biblical references, but it would mean a lot to me if you listened. I don't think he's finished it, but he's pretty nearly finished it. And we haven't discussed it yet. So I need to go back because I'm actually grumpy now. Anyway, I was in a good sort of patch last week. Now I'm grumpy.
Why do, what do you think's really, really sort of adding to the grump?
Well, I just get stressed. Like last night he couldn't wee. And I just like, oh, for fuck's sake, I can't go down. Like if you, why can't you wee? And I just get stressed about any kind of problem. Like he's got conjunctivitis and I'm just like, it reminds me of when they thought he had leukemia behind his eyes and then he can't wee. And I'm like, what's wrong with your bladder now?
And I'm just like, I just, it is, It just gives, it brings up feelings of ick and pissed off and I just get fucked off. So, and then Rico went out last night to a party down the road and there was police and I just, and we just didn't really parent it properly. And then it annoys me because we're niggly. So yeah, we're niggly.
I gave him a kiss goodbye purely because I knew I had to just be kind, but like, I just didn't really want to like, you know?
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Chapter 8: What insights can podcasts provide for parenting?
Yeah. And I'm like, well, yeah. I agree with you. And we've, it's annoying that we've let him do that in the past. We're going to have to reparent that. So I said, we're going to have to have a conversation with him tonight, but like, do you know what? Like that is what I'm saying about how hard relationships are because we're not even discussing mine and his relationship.
We need to work on that. We're having to discuss this relationship, this managed. Yeah. And that takes up the whole space. There's no space or room for other stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah, and it's like there's a lot of chat if you – there's a lot of chat prior to this stage. There's so much chat about when in the throes of young children, making time for your partner. But actually, like, it should be chat around that for this stage too. And Topol, add to that, like, just perimenopausal women.
Oh, I don't know.
Because you get perimenopausal in the thick of it too.
And then you add in, like, the stress of life and disease and all that shit. But so I was just listening to – It's random, but Maggie Dent is, she's probably about mum's age, but she's a mother of four sons. And she's actually written nine books. Do you know of her, Jess?
I've seen you share her, yeah.
Yeah. So she's done like a, her last book was actually one of her, she thought she'd finished writing when she did like Girlhood or something. She did a book on girls. But then she's actually come back and written one more book called Help Me Help Your Teen.
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