Chapter 1: What are the main categories for the 2025 Milly Awards?
All right. So, Steph, welcome back. You've been on, I don't know, a dozen times or so. You're a great friend of the pod. We wanted to do this with you. So, we have categories, a bunch of categories for the year, and we're going to go rapid fire through them, and we'll do it that way. Okay. So, Steph, you've been given the categories, but we don't know what you said.
Sam, I don't know what you said. This will be a surprise for all of us. I wish we actually would have recapped some of the numbers, but over the last 12 months, Sean, I don't know if you've known this, but we've had something like 90 million views across everything, downloads and views. Amazing. Pretty wild.
We crossed, I believe, I think we're close to 2 million subscribers across YouTube, Spotify, and Apple or whatever. Which is bananas. I mean, that number, 90 million, that's a lot of view time. A lot of views. It's a lot. And like, there's definitely like one or two shorts that got like, 10 million.
I think last year, I think we had last year, there was one where we told the story, maybe you told the story of Elon Musk. I think it got 30 million. So like some go really heavy, but it's been pretty crazy. So we've reached tens of millions of people in the last 12 months, which is astounding. And now we do this at the end of every year. And it's one of my favorite things.
We do mostly the same categories each year, but it's always like so fun to go through your phone and like look at old photos and see what's going on from your trail in 12 months. So I'm excited to do this. So category number one, the best investment that you made this year. Is that right? Best investment you made this year. So, Sam, you want to kick this off?
Yeah, so my, if this just says investment, it doesn't say best money investment. My best money investment is always boring because I just do S&P 500 and bonds. But my best real investment that I made was I moved to New York City. And let me tell you the story. So I was living in the suburbs. I decided to move to New York City. I moved here and I found an apartment that I loved.
It was furnished amazingly. And I go to the previous tenants. I go, I want to move in this apartment. Um... do you guys just want to sell me all your furniture? And so I had them itemize all of their furniture and it added up to be very expensive, $80,000 or $90,000 worth of stuff. I said, I'll give you 10%. They took it.
So I ended up moving to the city in a furnished apartment where I get to see my in-laws four days a week. I go to my office five days a week and it's made me so happy. So that's been my best investment was moving to a furnished place. I sold all my cars. I don't own basically anything and I love it. Owning less stuff, moving to the city, being near your family, working in person in an office.
That's actually a pretty big change overall. Huge change. And it's definitely made me a lot happier. Questionable if it's an investment, but it is a huge change. I will give you that. It's an emotional investment. I'm emotionally invested in this city now.
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Chapter 2: What insights are shared about the best investment of the year?
So what is that? That's nearly two decades of just unnecessary pain, time applied, just the worst. Anyone who's had acne knows it sucks. So I spent forever just being like, it'll go away. I'm getting older. And then I was influenced by the king influencer, Mr. Beast. He was on, I can't even remember what podcast, but he just slipped it in.
One day he was like, yeah, I took Accutane a few years ago. Didn't really tell anyone, but like one day my acne just disappeared overnight. I don't know why more people don't talk about this. And I was like, first of all, yes, why don't more people talk about this? And second of all, I'm going to call up my dermatologist and ask why, right?
I'm not on Accutane and I took it for six months this year and I'm clear. And I think it's like, you know, obviously your mileage may vary, go talk to a doctor, but I'm just like, this is the best thing ever. People, the internet can do the comparison. I mean, I always wear makeup. So take right now, go back to like V1 of me on my first million. It's going to look different.
You should post a tweet of a true before and after. Well, I think that's the thing. People are so embarrassed to like, you know, if I were to actually take, I'm sure I've got some images of me, no makeup during those periods. It's embarrassing. So we have another category called biggest personal L you took. And maybe there will be some photos that might be shared during that time. Okay.
So you also didn't do the category. We're off to a rough start here. All right. So my investment. So this is actually kind of funny. A year ago to the day, so December 17th today, I tweeted out on December 16th this tweet. So I said, I'm going Christmas shopping this morning. I'm Xmas shopping assets this morning. And I tweeted it out. So basically what I did was that day I took –
something like $1.5 million and I spread it across these stocks and I tweeted it out that day. I said, I'm putting 20% into Shopify, 20% into Tesla, 20% into Eli Lilly, 20% into Bitcoin, 20% into Coinbase. The one I forgot to put on here is I also put 20% Google. And, or sorry, not 20% Google. I put, basically I put 250K into each one. So I think the total was 1.25 million invested.
on the same day on December 16th. No dollar cost averaging, no research, no nothing. I was just feeling like these are things I would like to gift myself for long-term ownership. And if I look, so the results of these now are what? So I just looked this morning, because I haven't really been checking too aggressively. So I had a couple that were flat. So Coinbase and Bitcoin are essentially flat.
Coinbase is up 1%, Bitcoin's down 8% in that total year span. But everything else, Shopify is up 53%. Tesla is up 16, 17%. Eli Lilly is up 35%. Google is up 50%. And so my public stock bet that I put out there is my best investment of the year. Because I think the blended average here is something... What is that? Let me... I thought I pulled it up somewhere.
I think it's something like 35% for the year. And so that was a good return on a one-day shopping spree. I... You use these words like shopping spree and things like that as if they apply here, which is hilarious. I was supposed to be Christmas shopping, gifts for others, and instead I bought stocks for myself. I thought you committed to the index path last year.
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Chapter 3: What personal lessons are revealed in the biggest personal loss category?
You had a good time? Yeah, like, if I pick a—yeah, because I like seeing old friends. I've been in the industry for long enough that it's the only time that I see old buddies. That's fair. Yeah, that's true. Like, did you go, did you like go into HubSpot? I didn't really go to, I didn't really go to anything this year. You went to Inbound. Um, well, that was in San Francisco.
I just showed up, I gave my talk and I left. So it was like, you know, a very quick thing. Um, I hung out with Dharmesh actually at the event. That was like kind of the only thing I did. Yeah, that sounds awesome. Okay, I'll give you my worst investment of the year. Once again, I took these literally. So here's my... This wasn't... Okay, so I guess there's a little less literal.
I didn't lose money much in any investments this year, which was nice because in prior years, if you go back and watch these awards, it's like, hey, invested in this Crypto Ponzi scheme. What's up with that? You know, that was pretty bad. You know, I've run into some trouble along the way. This year, I didn't have any... But I will say this.
I realized, I found out this year, that I passed on three different $10 billion startup investments that were right in my wheelhouse. Which ones? Unbelievable. So the first one was PolyMarket. I was one of the early users, probably the first 5,000 users of PolyMarket. I'm a degenerate gambler.
My college GPA is like half a point lower than it should be because I used to go gamble on riverboats in international waters and stuff instead of going to class. I'm a degenerate gambler. I was using Polymarket. I was VPNing to pretend I'm in Morocco to place bets. allegedly. And so, you know, I'm using Polymarket. I love the thing. The founder is in my DMs.
He's, he screenshotted his phone and posted one of my blog posts as the background of his phone. He's like, I thought you'd like this. This is my background of my phone this week. And I was like the ultimate in and didn't somehow end up making an investment. Just like, didn't, didn't go actively try to do it until it was too late.
call she same thing another prediction market same product if i didn't hit the winner you know the first winner polymarket maybe i could have hit the second winner i go back i check my dms they've been dming me since 2020 hey huge fans of the pod would love to do something with you uh you know all i needed to do was uh answer and guess what i did answer and here's what here's what my great answer was ah so pretty similar to polymarket then huh that was my son of a gun answer how much would you have made
The valuations of those were probably sub $100 million for sure at that stage. And now they're both above 10 billion. So no public math, but somebody at the chat can tell me how much money I lost. And the last one was whatnot. So I get acquired by Twitch, the number one live streaming platform. When I'm at Twitch, guess what I do? I tell Twitch, hey, we're losing the battlefield on mobile.
I become the leader of mobile at Twitch.
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Chapter 4: How does the discussion shift to the coolest moment of the year?
But the person I chose, the Billy, I don't know if he's actually a billionaire, so I'm cheating a little bit, but he's for sure a hundreds of millionaire, is Sebastian Thrun. He was one of the early co-founders. He's like the father, godfather of self-driving. Yeah. Exactly. So let me throw out a few different pieces of his timeline. So he was motivated by personal tragedy.
His childhood friend was killed in a car accident when he was 18. That got him invested in trying to figure out this self-driving equation. In 2005, so 20 years ago, DARPA had a grand challenge funded by the U.S. government. His team won. Then, 2007, he goes and he joins Google. And he didn't just create Waymo, he also co-founded and led Google X, their moonshot factory.
He co-developed Google Street View. And, of course, he was one of the creators of Waymo way back when. But here's the thing. He left in 2014, and he's also gone on to do some really cool shit. So in 2011, he put out this Introduction to Artificial Intelligence course online for free. 160,000 students enrolled. Wow.
Because he saw how people could learn online, you don't need to be at Stanford to learn about AI, he created Udacity in 2011. And then since then, he's also led the Kitty Hawk Corporation. They were building electric flying cars. Didn't ultimately end up working out, but that's another thing that he's been super early to. We're now seeing these EV tool companies get off the ground.
I just think this guy is super cool. He's been early to all of these trends and is just like... continuing to build even though he was early to Waymo, he's rich, and he's just continuing to dabble. This guy's prolific. Good find. There's like a lineage, I think, of people under him. Like he had his initial lab, maybe at Stanford or whatever.
And somebody who was doing self-driving, I was describing like, you know, basically all the modern self-driving kind of like leaders. If you just trace their kind of lineage, it's like he had six people or seven people under him. It was that school of thought that sort of like branched out and created like all the different people in the industry today.
So he's very much like what was a sort of grandfather or godfather to that, to the industry. He's also, he's got some range because like he created, you know, these cars things, which is like the most brilliant thing on earth. But then also he has a course business. And I'm being silly a little bit, but that's not, in my opinion, in the same category of flying cars.
But its Udacity, to me, is a very respectable, amazing thing. And so it's pretty cool how much range she has. Yeah, so all of us who create courses, we're just like these self-driving car guys, right? You have to do the other half. Same range. Usually range is like wide. This is almost like up and down. Yeah, our barbell doesn't have the weight on the other side yet.
So it's a little awkward to hold. So we definitely have to go and do that. But that's pretty cool though. All right, mine came down to a coin flip between John Morgan and Jesse Cole. I went with Jesse Cole. So we did an episode with him on the podcast, and I was incredibly inspired by this guy. So he's done what I think is basically impossible.
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Chapter 5: What personal experiences shape the discussion around parenting?
There's only, it's like, all right, Brandon, good luck, buddy. There's only seven-year-olds there. Their parents are there. They're looking around like, where's your kid? I'm like, no, no, it was me. I was the one getting the lesson, the piano lesson. And it was just kind of an odd thing to be doing pretty regularly. But again, trusted my gut, went with it, just leaned into it.
It was like, all right, I'm having fun. So I'm not forcing myself to do something I don't want to do. Why does everything have to be with an agenda? And, you know, this kind of like validated, like, yeah, just keep doing that. Good things do happen as you keep doing that. Don't worry.
Like, you'll also get the rewards you seek in life, even when you're doing the stuff that seems like it has, you know, no rewards. You're just doing it because you like it. Next podcast, I want to know all of what it was about hanging out with him. Yeah, we'll do. What about you, Steph? My coolest moment. I was in between two. I did a big trip to Africa.
And if you haven't done gorilla trekking, it is one of the most incredible things I've ever done. Gorilla trekking? What did you say? Trekking. Yes. Yeah, trekking, tracking, you do both. Are you tracking down a gorilla or are you doing something, you're trekking?
There's families of gorillas that live, we did it in Rwanda, they have it in Uganda, not many countries other than that, and they're wild. So yeah, they live in the wild and they move every night. So they have these trackers who go out every day and try to locate them. And then you trek through the rainforest, truly, like there's mud up to your knees at points and try to find them.
Where did you do it? Which place? In Rwanda. But super cool experience. But my actual answer is going to see the World Series with my dad. He's been a Blue Jays fan since before I was born. The last time they won the World Series was in 93.
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Chapter 6: How does running impact personal growth and perspective?
They had a double year, 92, 93. And then I was born in...
and ruined it all and so he he kind of makes fun of me for that every year and is like also the person who goes and is like is their year is their year they made these trades watches every game you know 160 plus and he's also where i get every ounce of my cheapness from and so he would never ever buy tickets for himself and so um yeah her you know once they hit the world series i flew home bought him tickets for game six when they had their first chance to win
Didn't win. Then YOLO'd it for game seven. Totally worth it. Like can't really think of a better way. Oh, you did two in a row. That's awesome. Yeah. I mean, I wish they had won either of them because they lost. But yeah. That's amazing. That's a great thing to do. That's a really great thing to do. I could see why all NBA players, their first thing is, I bought my mama a house.
I think there's probably very few things you could do that will feel as good as taking your dad or your mom to do something that they would love to do, they'd never do for themselves, and get to do that with them when you're a grown-up. Do you guys want to combine frame-breaking person and favorite guest? Okay, what you got? So, well, do you have a favorite guest?
Well, let's explain what frame breaking is. Okay, so me and Sam use this term a lot. Frame breaking, everybody walks around with some frame and frame is like a border, right? And everything that's inside the border is what you sort of, I'm used to that. I've seen that. I expect that. That's what's in the picture. That's how wide my lens goes. And then occasionally you'll meet these people
who will just completely break your frame. And it's like, oh, I didn't, like, it's like, imagine a painting where somebody just starts drawing past the frame onto the wall. You're like, what? You can't go out there. And so this is maybe somebody with like extreme ambition or they live life to the fullest in this way that you don't really do.
Or they're really, you know, really intentional about their time. Or, you know, there's these things that people do that, You thought you knew what level 10 looked like in that category. And then you realize, oh, what I thought was a 10 is a seven. And now I know what a 10 looks like. I actually like somebody's broken my frame.
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Chapter 7: What are the insights shared about content creation and social media?
They've turned the volume knob up further than I thought it could go in that aspect of their life. So that's the setup. Who was your frame breaking person? So there's this Aristotle quote that I've been thinking about for like a year now. I think last time when we did this, I was saying I was trying to use my phone less. And there's an Aristotle quote. It says, excellence is never an accident.
It's always the result of high intention, sincere effort, and intelligent execution. And the reason I think about that all the time is because I don't know about you guys, but if I'm on a Zoom meeting, I'm probably browsing the internet. If I'm watching TV, I probably have my phone up and I'm doing something. There's this constant... pattern of interruption and never focusing on something.
And it's kind of been tearing me apart. It's kind of making me gone mad. And so I've been working so hard on being intentional about my attention and focusing on excellence, but in a very few amount of things. So just picking a couple of things and being great. And we had this guy, I don't think you were here, Sean, but we had this guy named Will Godera.
who wrote this book called Unreasonable Hospitality. And the story is, if you guys have seen The Bear, it's one of the inspirations for The Bear, the TV show. But basically, the story is that he owned this very famous restaurant in New York called Eleven Madison. And they are famous for going above and beyond. For example, someone was
Wasn't it the top rated restaurant in the country or what's like the claim to fame? It was the top rated restaurant in the country in part because the food was special. It was a Michelin star place. So it was like fancy. But the other part was that they were known for being unreasonably hospitable. So I'll give you an example.
They had this couple or a family from Europe come to the restaurant that they had planned for months to attend. And Will or a waiter overheard them say, we're leaving tomorrow, but the one thing we didn't get to experience was a New York street hot dog. And so Will has this guy at his company who they call them the dream weaver. And his only job was to make dreams come true to their customers.
And so this guy ran outside and he bought a street hot dog or a couple of them and they chopped them up and put like a cute garnish on it. So it sort of looked like it was a fancy restaurant food, but it was actually a street hot dog. And they said, we heard you talk about you wanting a hot dog. here you go. Your dreams have become a reality. And that's rooted in unreasonable hospitality.
But the reality is, it's about being excellent. And he gave this amazing spiel.
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Chapter 8: What memorable memes or tweets are highlighted in this episode?
And it's crazy. This did not... I think this hit on Spotify, but it did not hit on YouTube. But this was the best podcast I'd ever recorded based just of what he told me of the idea of... He was like, we are going to go above and beyond and we are going to be excellent. And I found that to be...
kind of overfilling my cup, not just in the business category, but in life of just pursuing excellence for the sake of just trying to be great at a couple things. And I found that to be a very inspirational book. And I find him to be a very inspirational person. He kind of broke my frame. That was awesome. That was an awesome rant and summary of it too. I love that. Thank you. It was awesome.
That scene in The Bear is the best. They recreated that idea in The Bear. And it was like peak television. It was the best. And then my favorite guest, sleeper of a guest, Sean Frank. So Sean Franks, this guy who's the CEO of Ridge Wallet, which is a popular wallet company. Guys, this guy is so funny and so interesting, Sean, because he's kind of like you and I, like he's silly and everything.
But his silliness is, I think he's actually a very serious person. And I found this blog that he wrote last year. Listen to this. He said, my goal is to sell Ridge for a billion dollars in the next three years. I have to time it right because we're coming out of a bubble and interest rates are going to go up. And then they're going to come back down hopefully by 2025.
And then by 2026 or 27, I'm going to sell this company. And I just thought it was hilarious that this guy like called his shot like that. And if you listen to the podcast that we had with him, he was a very direct person. And I find that to be incredibly refreshing. So I think Sean Frank was my favorite guest. He's a great follow on Twitter as well.
Dude, he's like a wholesome guy, but he's very blunt. And I find that to be a very cool combination. Yeah, he's funny. So that's my favorite guess and my favorite frame breaking people. Today's episode is brought to you by HubSpot. Did you know that most businesses only use 20% of their data? That's like reading a book but then tearing out four-fifths of the pages. Point is, you miss a lot.
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Steph, you want to go next or...? Sure. Have you guys heard of Fiona Oakes? No. Who is that? Frame-breaking person. Okay, so I discovered her because I've gotten into running lately and I watched this documentary. Spell her name. Fiona Oakes. O-A-K-E-S. This documentary was about her. It's called Running for Good, the Fiona Oaks documentary. Okay, so get this.
She has been a vegan since she was six. She lost her kneecap at age 17 due to an injury and medical complications. Yet, she is this crazy marathon woman. She lives in some farm area in England. She just runs a crazy number of miles. Doctors to other patients who have lost their kneecaps are like, you can't even walk downhill. She's running these marathons. She has multiple world records.
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