Episode 6 - Armed and Dangerous
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Who is Detective Ray Lugo and what is his role in Daisy's case?
Everything looks very closed up, like they definitely don't want people just knocking in. I think I need to ring the bell. Hey, my name is Jennifer. I have an appointment with Ray Lugo. Hey. How's it going? It was a weekday afternoon, and I was at the Homicide Bureau of the L.A. County Sheriff's Department. It's this institutional-looking building in a suburban office park just east of L.A.
We have some podcasters. I'm just giving them a little tour. I want to show them some pictures, okay?
That's Detective Ray Lugo. He's got broad shoulders and a bald head. He used to be a high school football coach, and he still kind of got that coach vibe. Like, he likes to remind me that he was the lead detective on Daisy's case. He says he always had a plan for it. He walked me around the office and pointed to newspaper clippings and photographs on the wall. And because this is Los Angeles, there were also movie posters.
The movie with Angelina Jolie, the Changeling. You know, in the movie, it's LAPD and stuff, but that was a sheriff's case and stuff. But in movies, they always put LAPD, but that was... And we didn't know, the historian told us, and we had pictures of it and stuff.
Do you feel like you get slighted if LAPD gets all the glory?
No, not really. They're the JV team to us anyway, so we don't feel that way.
All right, so if you didn't catch that, Lugo was saying that The Changeling was based on a sheriff's department's case, but that the movie made it all about the LAPD. When I asked if that bothered him, that the LAPD always gets the Hollywood treatment, he said no. I mean, it sounds like what he said was their junior varsity to us. Again, he's a former football coach. And by the way, the LAPD and the LA Sheriff's Department have separate jurisdictions. The former patrols the city of LA, whereas the latter serves the county's unincorporated areas and more than 40 of its other cities. So everywhere from Palmdale to Malibu to Compton. It is a massive area. Lugo showed me a break room. It looked kind of like a high school cafeteria, right down to the mascot that was painted on the back wall. It was this cartoon bulldog wearing a fedora, and it had a little piece of paper in the fedora, and on that piece of paper were the numbers 187, California Penal Code for Homicide. I've been noticing this bulldog everywhere.
The LA Times called us the bulldogs.
Lugo pointed me to a newspaper clipping mounted on a wall. It was from 1977. The headline is, Sheriff's Bulldogs Hang In Where LAPD Doesn't. Oh, so they're like pitting you against LAPD again.
Yeah, yeah.
What is the significance of the 'bulldog' mascot at the LA County Sheriff's Homicide Bureau?
I didn't know there was like this rivalry.
No, not really. We don't consider them a rival to us. They can't hang with us. They can't.
So what does it mean to be a bulldog?
The reason why, in the article, the reason why they said that was because we never give up. And that's how they teach us that here, that although even when we don't have any evidence, we just never give up. We find a way, a legal way, to try to find the suspects and convict them.
Well, that's actually what I was here to talk with Lugo about. Like, what exactly was he doing while Daisy's friends and family were putting Victor on blast? Desperately looking to get attention on the case. Where was that bulldog spirit when it came to finding a murder suspect? I'm Jen Swan.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Who is Detective Ray Lugo and what is his role in Daisy's case?
0:53–4:00
2
What is the significance of the 'bulldog' mascot at the LA County Sheriff's Homicide Bureau?
4:00–7:13
3
Why did Detective Lugo receive numerous calls from social media tipsters?
7:13–10:27
4
How does Detective Lugo describe the challenges in investigating Daisy's murder?
10:27
5
What is the rivalry between LA Sheriff's Department and LAPD about?
3:46–14:15
6
How did Detective Lugo’s personal background influence his career and approach to policing?
14:15–16:48
7
What role did CODIS play in identifying a suspect in Daisy's murder?
16:48–19:54
8
What are the risks of social media vigilante investigations as seen in Compton?
19:54–30:24