Getting along with China

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What did Trump say about getting along with China and how did it affect market sentiment?

Phil Dobbie 0:01
Getting along with China. That's what President Trump said on Friday, and that boosted market confidence a little, helping equities and pushing bond yields down and giving some growth to the U.S. dollar after a week of declines. And worries over regional banks in the U.S., well, that's all been brushed off as well, as though it was a bit of a storm in a teacup. But the shutdown in the U.S. drags on. It's Monday. It's the 20th of October, 2025. It's the morning call from NAB. Good morning. Good morning. Well, for U.S. Treasuries, we saw yields falling last week, but they rose sharply on Friday. So up 3.5 basis points for 10 years and for two years. But two years were coming off their lowest yield since 2022, it's fair to say.
Phil Dobbie 0:41
But look at Aussie 10-year yields last week. They fell almost 22 basis points across the week, way more than anywhere else. And the U.S. dollar... was down more than half a percent last week compared to a 0.4% rise in the Aussie dollar, which was a bit better than the euro, but not as strong as the pound or the Swiss franc. And it wasn't good for equities generally last week, except for in the United States. So the Russell 2000 up 2.4%, the NASDAQ up 2.1%, but the ASX 200 at home up just 0.4%. And Hang Seng down 4%, shares in mainland China down about the same amount as well. The standout last week was gold. It was up 5.4%, whereas iron ore fell 2.3%, and oil was down about 2.3% as well. So there we are.
Phil Dobbie 1:30
Interesting week. Nabs Taylor-Newton is here to talk about what will no doubt be another interesting week with the U.S. shutdown continuing. But let's quickly look at Friday, first of all, Taylor, because sentiment did turn around a little.

How did U.S. Treasury yields and Aussie bond yields move this week?

Phil Dobbie 1:43
So there were concerns about China and US banks because, of course, two smaller regional banks lost the confidence of investors when it was shown that they'd been the subject of bad loans brought about by fraudsters. But the losses in regional banks climbed back a little bit. And the China-Trump deal, well, Trump made some wording, didn't he, that sort of settled hopes that things would be resolved. So the markets took him at his word.
Taylor Nugent 2:08
Yeah, good morning, Phil. So, yeah, when we look over the week, there was kind of a bit of a return to volatility through risk assets. We had the VIX up around 29. It's higher since in six months since the kind of the volatility after the Liberation Day period. tariff announcements back in April. But as you say, that did fall back on Friday and we saw a bit of a recovery in risk assets. U.S. yields a bit higher, U.S. equities recovering a little bit. And kind of the themes through the week were regional banking fears and U.S.-China trade developments and both of those things on Friday. did seem to recede a little bit. So on the regional banking fears side and the emerging or escalating fears about credit quality there, there was some reasonable reporting and some lower provisioning for banks
Taylor Nugent 3:02
losses from a couple of regional banks as well that were somewhat supportive that this may be more idiosyncratic than widespread. We've had over the week financials more broadly underperforming the broader equity market, but certainly recovering a bit on Friday. And then comments from Trump as well on the China-US tariff relationship side. He said that, asked if the threatened additional 100% tariffs on China would stand. You know, he indicated that, no, they're not sustainable, but that's what the number is. But then also went on to say that, you know, he thinks we're going to do fine with China. So a bit more conciliatory there and looking ahead to some kind of ongoing negotiations. We heard from Besant that those kind of, you know,
Taylor Nugent 3:50
Lower level meetings will be continuing. He's likely to meet his Chinese counterpart in about a week's time. And then, you know, expectations are still that that Trump-Xi meeting will take place in a couple of weeks alongside the APEC summit in Korea.
Phil Dobbie 4:05
Polymarket Gambling, by the way, their odds are now still less than a 15% chance that China is going to get those 100% tariffs, which is where it's been sort of trundling along for most of last week.

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