Weekend Edition: The Invisible Hand Behind Your Super Fund
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What is the shape of the Australian super industry and its current challenges?
The shape of the Australian super industry. How is it going to navigate moves down by central banks, geopolitics like China and Trump, opportunities in non-listed assets at home and overseas? How can we navigate all of this and get the most effective return? I mean sure you can research a lot, but if everyone does that, then aren't we all gonna reach the same conclusions? So there must be something more to seeing a better than average return on investments. So let's talk to Someone who's been advising on this for a long time. Jarna's John Coom joins me on the weekend edition. Is he in fact the secret ingredient? The morning call from Nab with Phil Dobby.
The weekend edition.
Behind decisions made by your superfund, very often there sits the expertise and experience of an asset consultant, and one of the most important players in this space over the last thirty years or so is John Coom, Executive Director at JANA Investment Advisors, advising some of the largest pension funds in the country. So, first of all, for those who don't know you, John, uh tell us how you got into this space and what do you think makes a good Asset consultant.
I got in this space by starting my career at the SC C of Victoria, which is now a Quip super. Um, but I was in the investment team Um with a man called John Nolan and um John had been at National Mutual, was the economist and was um the fin uh head of finance at uh at the uh SEC of Victoria. And so John Um convinced me to come and um work in Um asset consulting. But I did trade bonds, fill and equities and did money market and currency for my sins in my early days at the SEC. Um
but I imagine that's really that's really useful because you get you get to understand what is actually really driving the markets.
Correct. And um and and you also get to know the players in the market too 'cause uh you know As an asset consultant, you don't have much dealings with the broken community, but like I had um experiences with the broken community going back you know, back into the eighties and into the early nineties. So it was useful. Th those sort of uh linkages across the whole of the market were really important in the early days of asset consulting at least anyway.
And as you as you grow your business, if you look for more consultants, do you look for people with that sort of background, people like you? I mean I guess you'd also be looking and saying, Well, okay, how have you performed in the past? Past performance would be a bit of it, wouldn't it? But w w you know what are the skill sets you're looking for? Is it changing?
Yeah, well y the the skill sets in in in consulting is really interesting 'cause I it has changed a lot. Um So you need the technical expertise. So there's some people that we hire today who are real
How did John Coombe start his career in asset consulting and what shaped his approach?
you know, quantitative, technical Um uh inve uh investment analysts. Um Whereas a good consultant is really a good listener. It's a really a good listener, right? Because at the end of the day you've got to listen to your clients and understand their goals and objectives and and give them advice. So part of a a skill set is really w what am I hearing from my client? Often it's i i it's a I I tend to, you know, if I get a new client sit there in the first meeting. They're probably wondering why they're paying me. Um but um it's good just to hear what their ambitions and their goals are. And it doesn't matter whether it's, you know, an Australian retirement trust or um you know Aussie Super or anyone
So isn't it isn't it isn't fundamentally the same though for everybody that they just, you know, they have money, they want to see the best return they possibly can?
Uh I would have said that about super funds a decade ago. But I think the um the way the your your future legislation has been um written, it's more about risk management and um Returns are really important, yes, but the return versus the risk you've taken and against the risk against the benchmark against which you're being measured has become super important. Whereas my family offices, Phil, you know, we we we we sit down and talk about individual companies and other things that they're invested in and private equity and they'll have, you know, masses of
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is the shape of the Australian super industry and its current challenges?
0:01–2:51
2
How did John Coombe start his career in asset consulting and what shaped his approach?
2:51–11:25
3
What skill sets do modern asset consultants need beyond technical expertise?
11:25–25:08
4
How do different investment time‑frames (family offices, super funds, insurers) affect asset allocation?
25:08–29:46