Vivian sits down with authors and career experts Laura Brown and Kristina O'Neill to explore what really happens when you get fired and why it might be the best thing that ever happened to you. Drawing from their book "All The Cool Girls Get Fired" and interviews with powerhouses like Oprah, Katie Couric, and Jamie Lee Curtis, Laura and Kristina break down how to navigate today's brutal job market with resilience and strategy. Whether you're facing a layoff, stuck in a months-long job search, or wondering if it's time to leave a toxic situation without a backup plan, they share the real tactics that work when everything feels uncertain. This conversation goes beyond traditional career advice to help you untangle your self-worth from your job title, turn unemployment into opportunity, and position yourself for roles that actually pay what you're worth. If you've ever felt defeated by rejection or wondered how to bounce back stronger from a career setback, this episode is your roadmap. Follow the podcast on Instagram and TikTok! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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