Voices from North Korea: Refugees Tell Their Stories

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What is Freedom Speakers International and why was it founded?

Christoph Bluth 0:01
Welcome to the New Books Network. Hello everybody. My name is Christoph Blut. I'm at the University of Bradford, Professor of International Relations and Security, and we have some very wonderful guests with us this today, uh from the Freedom Speakers International. So I welcome Casey Latig, you know and uh Jun uh you know Jun. Um I'm glad that you're here and so we uh want to learn something about the work that you're doing and the interest that you have and the um So Casey, perhaps if you could start off with us.
Casey Lartig 0:36
Okay, sure. I'm Casey Lartig. I'm co-founder of Freedom Speakers International in Seoul Korea. Uh my co-founder is a South Korean named Ungu Lee. I am an American living and working in South Korea. Uh, we started this back in March of 2013. At that time, it was a purely volunteer activity where we were connecting North Korean refugees with volunteer English teachers. And we started it because we had identified that there were some North Koreans who had been teachers in North Korea, but they were not qualified to become teachers in South Korea because their English levels were too low. So we started connecting. With volunteer tutors. And then it's kind of like what people in America would say it's like get into the mafia is easier to get in than it is to get out.
Casey Lartig 1:22
So once we got in, it was hard to get out because we had so many North Korean refugees coming to us. And then we finally decided maybe we should like make this an official organization. So we did that in 2016. And in our history, we've had about 600 North Korean refugees study English. English public speaking and career development. Uh we've published five books, including four by North Korean refugees. We have an an English speech contest twice a year and we've now had twenty one of them and our twenty second will be October first at Harvard University. That'd be a big thing. And actually one of our winners was Yuna. She was the winner of our eleven speech contest back in twenty twenty.
Christoph Bluth 2:04
So Yuna, could you tell us a little bit about your background and how you came to be in South Korea and to work with th this organization?
Ina 2:10
Yeah. Hi, my name is Ina. Nice to meet you all. And um as you know, I was born in North Korea and I defected to uh South Korea when I was um twenty, second year of university. And I joined uh FSI was like two thousand eighteen. So uh we have made great journey together. And um now I'm living I'm living in South Korea and I became a T V figure. and also public speaker and do a lot of things. So, um I will tell you more about my defection story, yeah, later.
Christoph Bluth 2:52
Okay, well c m maybe we should um explore the background just a little bit. I mean there are two issues. Obviously, one is um what is the story generally about uh North Korean refugees? Uh how do they get out? Why do they need to get out of North Korea? And the other question is of obviously, um, what kind of situation do they face when they actually come to South Korea where they're supposed to be uh accepted as citizens of Korea because South Korea doesn't recognise the existence of North Korea technically.
Ina 3:21
Hey,
Casey Lartig 3:21
let Yuna start.
Ina 3:23
Uh I was born in a very royal family. My father was military uh general, so military officer. And my mother also, uh, she had a good background. So my origin background was good. So I just selected by regime and then I went to uh special high school. So I received um education of English. And then as soon as I graduated high school, I moved to very northern of North Korea. called uh Hyong City, located very north. So it's near to China, so there's like a border. between north and China. There's like a river, two rivers actually. But one river was uh Chumura River. So the university located Hadang City, which was really close to China. So that time uh a lot of North Korean people after Gimel's are dead. The food shortage happened really seriously, uh seriously.
Ina 4:18
So um that time a lot of people actually break the law. Illegally they do some kind of like um Uh I forgot the the word. Smuggled. Yeah. Smuggled a lot of stuff from China to North Korea.

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