Bart Streumer, “Unbelievable Errors: An Error Theory about All Normative Judgments” (Oxford UP, 2017)
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What is the error theory and how does it apply to moral statements?
Hello, thanks for joining us for this episode of New Books in Philosophy. I'm Robert Talise and I'm professor of philosophy at Vanderbilt University. I co host the program with Carrie Figder. Carrie is Associate Professor of Philosophy at the University of Iowa. My guest today is Bart Strumer. Barton is Professor of Philosophy at the University of Gronigan. He works in the area of moral philosophy known as meta ethics. Meta Ethics addresses broad questions about the nature of moral theorizing itself. His new book is titled Unbelievable Errors an Error Theory About All Normative Judgments. It's published with Oxford University Press. Now it's intuitive to think that statements of the form lying is wrong.
Ascribe a property, namely that of wrongness, to acts of the type lying. In this way one might think That statements of this kind of Are a lot like statements of the form Bill is left handed. This statement also seems to ascribe a property, left handedness, to Bill. What about statements like Bill is a Wookiee? There is no property of being a Wookiee. And the statement therefore seems to be false. What's called the error theory is the view that moral statements of the kind that attribute moral properties are always false, because no such properties exist. In a fabulous new book. Bart offers a novel kind of defense of the error theory. As it applies. To all normative judgments. Now the character of this defence is fascinating.
Barthes argues that the error theory cannot be believed. In this unbelievability. Counts in favour of the theory. Now that's a heavy thought. And so there's a lot to talk about. But let's start by greeting our guest. Hi Bart. Hi Bob. How are you today? Yeah, I'm fine. How are you? I'm doing great. Uh thanks for joining me on New Books and Philosophy. Well thank you. Well, we usually start uh with the author, so uh w we won't make an exception in this uh episode. So why don't you kick things off by telling us a little bit about yourself?
Sure. So um I I teach philosophy at the University of Groningen as you just uh as you just said. And Groningen is a a a small university town in the north of the Netherlands and it's uh quite close to where I grew up. I also grew up in the north of the Netherlands and I actually was an undergraduate here in Groningen as well. And I I came to philosophy in a kind of roundabout way, I suppose. So as an undergraduate I initially uh did uh economics, I studied economics But I wasn't enjoying that very much and I wanted to do something else and I'd I'd always been very interested in in politics. Uh but Groningen didn't have a a politics department. So I looked around a little bit and I found that there was a a a fairly prominent Dutch political theorist who was a professor in the philosophy department in in Groningen.
And that's how I ended up doing philosophy. So I initially just wanted to do political philosophy because because of this interest in in politics. But then I found that that the things in philosophy I was most interested in were more foundational questions. So for example, in in political philosophy there's a lot of disagreement, so Uh political philosophers disagree about justice, so uh Rawls might say that justice requires this and Nozick might say that justice requires something else. And the sorts of questions I was interested in was w were were were like, you know, uh i in cases of disagreement like that, is are are i is is one of them really right? And and Um what would it be for a judgment about justice to be be to really be right or correct or true or something like that?
What what could make it true or or correct? So I found pretty quickly that those were the questions I was I was most interested in and and and those are the questions as as you just said that that that meta ethics uh deals with. So that's that's how I ended up in the area of philosophy that's known as meta ethics. And so after completing uh the the philosophy degree in Groningen I went to the UK and I did a a PhD at the University of Reading. Um and I stayed in the UK for a total of uh fifteen years and a few years ago I I came back to to Groningen to to teach here.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the error theory and how does it apply to moral statements?
0:07–6:07
2
How does Bart Streumer explain the two parts of the error theory (cognitivism and denial of moral properties)?
6:07–14:44
3
Why does Streumer argue that meta‑ethical realism (both reductive and non‑reductive) fails?
14:44–22:56
4
What is the “unbelievability thesis” and how does it make the error theory more plausible?
22:56–31:07
5
How does the “Mauryan objection” illustrate the tension between confidence in moral judgments and belief in the error theory?
31:07–40:00
6
Why do critics claim that defending the error theory puts philosophers in bad‑faith, and how does Streumer respond?
40:00–48:26
7
How can the idea of an “unbelievable” view be used to defend other controversial positions (e.g., eliminativism, truth‑ nihilism)?
48:26–57:14
8
What are Streumer’s next research projects and how might the error theory influence future work in political philosophy?
57:14–1:03:35
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