Chenyang Wang, "Subjectivity In-Between Times: Exploring the Notion of Time in Lacan's Work" (Palgrave, 2019)

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Jordan Osserman 1:21
Hello, and welcome to New Books in Psychoanalysis, a podcast on the New Books Network. My name is Jordan Osserman, your loyal host for today. And with today's episode, I'm excited to be inaugurating a new series for our podcast focused on psychoanalysis and time. So I'm producing this series of interviews in collaboration with Waiting Times, a multi-stranded research project on the temporalities of healthcare. Waiting Times is funded by the Wellcome Trust and takes place across Birkbeck, which is in the University of London, and the University of Exeter. Our project investigators are Lisa Bereitzer and Laura Salisbury, and I'm personally a postdoctoral researcher on a strand of the project called The Psychic Life of Time, based in the Department of Psychosocial Studies at Birkbeck.
Jordan Osserman 2:11
You can learn more about this project by visiting whatareyouwaitingfor.org.uk or follow us on the Twitter at whatiswaiting. So for the first episode of this new series, I'm delighted to be speaking to Chen-Yang Wang about his brand new book entitled Subjectivity in Between Times, Exploring the Notion of Time in Lacan's Work. Chen-Yang Wang is a postdoctoral fellow at East China Normal University, Shanghai. His research interests include psychoanalytic theory, gender studies, and continental philosophy. And Chen Yang and I were colleagues in psychosocial studies at Birkbeck while we were completing our PhDs. We were both supervised by Stephen Frosch, who organized monthly meetings for his supervisees to discuss our work together, which is how we discovered our shared interest in Lacan and got to know one another.
Jordan Osserman 3:04
Chen Yang received his PhD from psychosocial studies at Birkbeck in 2018. Chen Yang, thank you so much for agreeing to join us.
Chenyang Wang 3:14
Hi Jordan, I'm glad to be
Jordan Osserman 3:15
here. Could you begin just by telling us about your own interest in Lacan and psychoanalysis and what brought this book about?

How did Chen‑Yang Wang become interested in Lacan and what motivated his book?

Chenyang Wang 3:30
Well, I think I became interested in psychoanalysis First, during my undergraduate years at Beijing, I majored in sociology and I read broadly on topics related to creative theory, gender studies, and psychology as well. But in fact, I didn't find Freud's work or psychoanalysis in general very interesting at the beginning because of all the conventional interpretations that I came across. It was not until my familiarity with Zizek and some other postmodern French thinkers that I began to read some psychoanalysis from a different perspective, and I began to saw its potential to respond to important socio-philosophical and political problems. And in terms of how this book comes about and how I started this project, I think it comes when I first come across many interesting arguments about memory, history, sexual development, and temporal movement in Lacan's work.

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