Jana Mohr Lone, "Seen and Not Heard: Why Children's Voices Matter" (Rowman and Littlefield, 2021)
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Hello and welcome to New Books and Philosophy, a podcast channel with a New Books Network. I'm Sarah Tyson, Associate Professor of Philosophy at the University of Colorado, Denver, and I'm co host of the channel, along with Carrie Figdore, Robert Talise, and Malcolm Keating. Together we bring you conversations with philosophers about their new books, drawing from a wide range of areas of contemporary philosophical inquiry. Today's interview is with Jana Moore Lone, Executive Director of Philosophy Learning and Teaching Organization, Plato. and affiliate associate professor of philosophy at the University of Washington. Her book, Seen and Not Heard, What Child Why Children's Voices Matter, is just out from Roman and Littlefield Press.
What happens when we take children seriously as philosophical thinkers? What if we try to hear them about topics such as climate change, solitude, and the meaning of friendship? In seen and not heard, why children's voices matter. Lone engages with the voices of many children in philosophical conversation. To learn all not only what they think, but also what hearing children can make possible for our shared world. Janna Moralone, welcome to New Books in Philosophy.
Thanks for having me.
Um well Let's start with talking a little bit about your background and philosophy and your interests and how you came to write a book about um about children's philosophical voices.
So I came to philosophy. I was an undergraduate major in philosophy, and then I ended up going to law school and was a lawyer for quite a few years. And as a lawyer I worked a lot with families and particularly with children. And I could see as my practice grew how ultimately in many ways disempowering the law was for children. Their voices just were really not heard in the legal um arena. And at the same time I was working on my master's in philosophy because I loved philosophy and I didn't want to let go of it. And so I finished my master's and I was pregnant with my um first child and I decided to keep going and and let go of my practice in part because I'd really started to get interested in education as a way to provide children with kind of the tools they needed.
to navigate for themselves some of the circumstances of their lives, which I was seeing was very challenging for them to be able to do within the confines of the law. And as I was working on my PhD, my oldest son I had a second child and my oldest son turned four and started to ask these questions that I recognized as philosophical. Why is there hatred in the world? Where do numbers come from? And I got really interested in thinking about philosophy as a potential way to
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5 chapters
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0:00–14:51
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What inspired Jana Mohr Lone to write *Seen and Not Heard*?
14:51–28:25
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How did her work as a lawyer shape her view of children’s voices?
28:25–41:32
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Why does listening to children matter for philosophical inquiry?
41:32–55:29
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How are children’s questions about happiness and sadness different from adults’?
55:29–55:34
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