Jennifer A. McMahon, “Art and Ethics in a Material World: Kant’s Pragmatist Legacy” (Routledge, 2013)
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What is the central thesis of McMahon’s book on art and ethics?
Hello, and welcome to New Books and Philosophy, a podcast channel with the New Books Network. I'm Carrie Figdor, Associate Professor of Philosophy at the University of Iowa, and I'm co-host of the channel along with Robert Talese, Professor of Philosophy at Vanderbilt University. We interview philosophers about their new books in a wide range of areas, including ethics, philosophy of mind, metaphysics and epistemology, social and political philosophy, and others. Today's interview is with Jennifer McMahon, Associate Professor in Philosophy at the University of Adelaide, South Australia. Art and ethics are linked philosophically by the fact that they both fall under value theory, and some aestheticians, notably Bereskout, have argued for a direct connection between aesthetic and moral values in that the moral values that an artwork may embody can raise or lower its aesthetic value.
In Art and Ethics in a Material World, Kant's Pragmatist Legacy, which is just out from Routledge, McMahon argues that aesthetic and moral judgments are intrinsically linked by the fact that they contain a common element of community-calibrated subjective responses, and that as a result, by reflecting on art, we also exercise this element of moral judgment. McMahon draws on Kant, pragmatist philosophers such as John Dewey, contemporary philosophers of mind such as Susanna Siegel, and interviews with contemporary artists, including Olafur Eliasson and Dora Salcedo, to argue for and illustrate her view. Let's turn to the interview. Hello, Jennifer McMahon. Hi, Carrie. Hi. Welcome to New Books and Philosophy.
Thank you. I'm really pleased to be here. Well, it's a very interesting book, Art and Ethics in a Material World. And I thought... Because there are so many different themes going on in the book that are tied together in a very interesting way, I wanted to sort of start by giving what I consider to be a pretty crude characterization of the book as a whole, in that you're trying to link aesthetic and ethical judgments by positing a common element of... what you call community calibrated subjective responses. And then, you know, by reflecting on art, we in effect exercise this aspect of our moral judgment. Could you maybe, to start us off, explain sort of simply before we get into the details what the core thesis of the book is in your terms and what problem or question you're attempting to answer in the book?
Okay, yeah, thanks, Carrie. The theory of art developed in the book is post-Kantian in that it explains how art engages our subjectivity but in such a way that it structures our subjectivity, ideally. Art provides an opportunity to structure our feeling responses relative to particular objects into a communicable form. Okay, so by communicable, I mean compatible with our community. Now, this is a thesis you will have found through various other writing, people have interpreted Aristotle, for example, his poetics in relation to his ethics, to come up with something like this, the fact that poetry is an opportunity to calibrate our responses to those of our peers. Greg Currie has a similar thesis about literature, the role of literature and so on.
And so the idea I'm taking, and I take it really, I see it, but I'm taking it from Kant's critique of judgment in relation to his other work, to his body of work, a similar thesis. So art brings our private feelings into the public domain and in so doing calibrates them with those of our peers. Now this emphasis on public feeling, if you like, or in Kant's terms it's an a priori universality, that's the foremost aspect of my account. Now, there's an intentionalism also to the degree that we need to engage with artistic intention as evidenced in the work to experience the work. However, the emphasis of the account is on the way aesthetic judgment is concerned with elements of communication, those elements that are not captured by literal or discursive language.
And this is what art is ultimately about. My account does not focus on the artist as celebrity.
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Chapters
8 chapters
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What is the central thesis of McMahon’s book on art and ethics?
0:01–9:04
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How does McMahon define the “community‑calibrated subjective response” linking aesthetic and moral judgment?
9:04–18:12
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Why does McMahon emphasize the public, communicable aspect of aesthetic judgment?
18:12–27:05
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How does McMahon’s background in fine‑art practice shape her philosophical approach?
27:05–34:47
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What role do artists like Olafur Eliasson and Doris Salcedo play in illustrating the book’s arguments?
34:47–44:08
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How does Kant’s notion of sensus communis connect aesthetic judgment to moral judgment?
44:08–53:13
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What is the difference between aesthetic “free play” and moral reasoning in Kant’s framework?
53:13–1:00:30
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What future research or projects does McMahon plan to pursue after this book?
1:00:30–1:06:29
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