Julia Tanney, “Rules, Reasons and Self-Knowledge” (Harvard UP, 2012)
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What is the central thesis of Julia Tanney’s book *Rules, Reasons and Self‑Knowledge*?
Hello and welcome to New Books and Philosophy, a podcast channel in the New Books Network. I'm Carrie Figdor of the University of Iowa, and I'm co-host of the channel along with Robert Taliso Vanderbilt. In our bimonthly podcasts we interview philosophers about their new books across a wide variety of philosophical topics and areas. Today's interview is with Julia Tanne, reader in philosophy of mind at the University of Kent. We'll be talking about her new book Rules, Reasons and Self Knowledge, which is just out from Harvard University Press. It's fair to say that philosophy of mind and the sciences of the mind generally adhere to an information processing model of cognition. A standard version holds that there are events going on in the brain that represent the world, and that familiar psychological terms are used to refer to these events.
In this volume of new and previously published essays, Giulietanne mounts a sustained attack on this dominant view. Taking her cue from Gilbert Ryle and Ludwig Wittgenstein and the first time. Tanney argues that reasons for action are not content bearing mental states, and that being rational is not learning certain rules. Instead, mental state ascriptions, in particular those of propositional attitudes, have the function of encapsulating or marking patterns of thoughts, actions, and sayings. That is, understanding the mind starts from the perspective of reasons explanations. Which invoke sense making patterns. We learn these sense making patterns through acculturation. And ascribing mental states to others and to ourselves is a practice of pointing to a particular pattern, not to an event in the brain.
How did Tanney become interested in philosophy of mind and the problem of rationality?
Let's turn to the interview. I have with me here Julia Tanney, lecturer of philosophy at uh the University of Kent. Hello, Julia. Hello. Hi, welcome to New Books in Philosophy. Thank you very much. Um, so I'm very excited to talk about your new book, Rules, Reasons and Self Knowledge, um, which uh I sort of think of as a defense of a new l neo Rileyan metaphysics of mind, and I know you don't You don't agree with that a that characterization. Um But uh we can we can get into that um very shortly. Uh first, I guess to begin, if you can just maybe start us off with um a little explanation of uh uh your philosophical interests and what what drew you to philosophy of mind and to the the sustained uh interest in the issues that um that are included in the book.
Uh-huh. Well I s I guess I became interested in philosophy of mind um back when I was an undergraduate and I took some I th I took uh David Perris uh courses at UCLA on on uh motivated irrationality.
Why does Tanney reject the standard information‑processing model of cognition?
And um Those those were puzzles. Irrationality is a puzzle within philosophy of mind. And I started thinking about uh rationality and irrationality. Um and I sort of stayed with that that puzzle as a graduate student. And started thinking a lot about the literature and how you would understand uh what turned out to be the general problem of how to explain um norms which are in some sense constitutive norms, but at the same time norms that can be violated. And I realized that if I put it in that general kind of way. the problem of rationality or irrationality ramifies now into other kinds of problems and in fact it's what everybody talks about. Um in ethics, they talk about it in moral philosophy, they talk about it in
uh philosophy of language. How can we be uh how can what we say in one sense be be meaningful but at the on the other hand violate some some uh some meaning rules for example And then I got um The more I started thinking about that and trying to make some sense of it and realizing there might be something wrong with the whole way the problem has been set up. In other words, I wasn't finding any obvious solutions to the problems that didn't come up with some sort of paradox on the on on on the terms sort of on in internal grounds, on internal grounds so that Given the terms of which I in which I was trying to articulate the problem. I couldn't I couldn't solve it. So I started thinking about some of the presuppositions.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the central thesis of Julia Tanney’s book *Rules, Reasons and Self‑Knowledge*?
0:03–1:42
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How did Tanney become interested in philosophy of mind and the problem of rationality?
1:42–2:55
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Why does Tanney reject the standard information‑processing model of cognition?
2:55–4:44
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What is Tanney’s alternative “pattern‑marking” account of mental‑state ascriptions?
4:44–10:33
5
How does Tanney use zombie‑thought experiments to test her view on propositional attitudes?
10:33–17:49
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What implications does her view have for ethics, AI, and the status of moral agents?
17:49–25:25
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What future projects is Tanney planning to develop from her current research?
25:25–32:18
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How can listeners explore more of Tanney’s ideas and the podcast’s additional resources?
32:18–1:05:33
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