Robert Talisse, "Overdoing Democracy: Why We Must Put Politics in Its Place" (Oxford UP, 2019)
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Hello and welcome to New Books in Philosophy, a podcast channel with the New Books Network. I'm Carrie Figtor, Professor of Philosophy at the University of Iowa, and I'm co-host of the channel along with Robert Talise, Alexis McLeod, and Sarah Tyson. Together we bring you conversations with philosophers about their new books in a wide range of areas of contemporary philosophical inquiry. Today's interview is with Robert Talise, W. Alton Jones Professor of Philosophy at Vanderbilt University. His new book Overdoing democracy, why we must put politics in its place is Is just out from Oxford University Press. In the United States in particular, there is almost no social space today, whether that's Thanksgiving dinner or going shopping, that has not become saturated with political meaning.
In his new book, Talise argues that contrary to what many democratic theorists have argued, democracy is something that we can do too much of, and that it is in fact being overdone. Features of everyday life are overwhelmingly transformed into expressions of political identity. And this transformation undermines democracy itself, since it ends up undermining our capacity for civic friendship, or the capacity to see our political rivals as equals. Talesa's book is a provocative contribution to discussion among political theorists about the problems facing contemporary democracy. And from a practical standpoint, it also suggests that a way to counter this situation is to consciously seek out social interactions and spaces where politics is off the table.
Let's turn to the interview. Hello, Robert. Hey Carrie, how are you? Welcome. New books in philosophy. You've been here before, I think. I have. Um but anyway, so it is a it is a pleasure to be talking with with my co-host actually about your new book, Overdoing Democracy, Why We Must Put Politics in Its Place, which is just about to come out. So as usual I'd like to start with um a bit of background about about yourself. Uh you know, tell us as much as you would as much as you'd like, and then uh in particular, um how you came to write this book.
Sure. So uh I did my PhD at CUNY, um, as others have, uh, in two thousand one. Um, that same year I got hired on the philosophy faculty at Vanderbilt, uh, which is where I've been ever since. Um So, uh enough about me, uh the book. Um so uh you know, I tell the story about uh how I came to write the book uh early in the book. Um Which is that uh I was having lunch with a friend who I hadn't seen in a while, uh sort of a week or so after uh our last presidential election in the United States, which I'm sure many listeners will remember was jarring for uh lots of us. And um as we were talking, I I came to realize that um not only was she disappointed with the election results, and not only
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Chapters
5 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–10:49
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What is the central argument of Robert Talisse’s book *Overdoing Democracy*?
10:49–23:06
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How did a post‑election Thanksgiving dinner conversation inspire the book?
23:06–49:58
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What role did the TEDx talk “Putting Politics in Its Place” play in developing the ideas?
49:58–1:01:40
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How does Talisse define “overdoing” democracy and why is it problematic?
1:01:40–1:09:40
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