Roberta L. Millstein, "The Land Is Our Community: Aldo Leopold’s Environmental Ethic for the New Millennium" (U Chicago Press, 2024)
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What inspired Roberta Millstein to write a new interpretation of Aldo Leopold’s Land Ethic?
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Hello and welcome to New Books and Philosophy, a podcast channel with the New Books Network. I'm Carrie Figdoor, Professor of Philosophy at the University of Iowa. I'm co-host of the channel along with Robert Talise, Sarah Tyson, and Malcolm Keating. Together we bring you conversations with philosophers about their new books and a wide range of areas of contemporary philosophical inquiry. Today's interview is with Roberta Milstein, Professor Emerit of Philosophy at the University of California, Davis. Her new book, The Land Is Our Community, Aldo Leopold's Environmental Ethic for the New Millennium. is just out from University of Chicago Press. Although Leopold's land ethic has been both hugely influential in the environmental conservation movement.
And also often misinterpreted. In her new book, Milstein aims to set the record straight. She offers interpretations of Leopold's key concepts of the land community based in webs of causal interactions. And land health as an ability of the land community to renew itself over time. She provides a comprehensive view of Leopold's prescient ideas regarding the expansion of humanity's scope of moral concern. To include the land communities to which we belong. Let's turn to the interview. Hello, Roberta Milstein. Welcome to New Books in Philosophy.
Thank you
so
much, Carrie. It's great to be
here. Um, I'm really looking forward to this conversation about uh your book, The Land Is Our Community, Aldo Leopold's Environmental Ethic for the New Millennium. Um Uh There's a lot to talk about, um, you know, in terms of his ethic and its relationship to current, you know, sort of conservation efforts, things like that. Um And I I I suspect there's I'm gonna be playing a lot of devil's advocate here. Um Okay. So uh so before we get to the the actual um the content of the book, say tell us a bit about about yourself. You know, you're a philosopher of biology. Um how did you how did you come to write this book?
Uh the book really came out of my teaching environmental ethics. I'd taught it for many years and um So this, you know, Leopold's land ethic is a standard topic in environmental ethics. It's in all of the anthologies and everything. And so I would, you know, we'd read that. And then another standard paper um is the one by Baird Calicott, or several there's several by Baird Calicott, but one in particular is often uh interpreting uh the land ethic. And I would teach it and My students would say, Where is he getting that interpretation from? I mean, it seems interesting. It's an interesting interpretation, but where is it coming from? And I'd be standing in front of the classroom and it's one of those moments where you're like, I d I don't know.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What inspired Roberta Millstein to write a new interpretation of Aldo Leopold’s Land Ethic?
0:00–11:01
2
How does Millstein explain the common misinterpretations of Leopold’s “two‑sentence” summary?
11:01–20:59
3
What does “interdependence” mean in Leopold’s ethic, and why is it more than just symbiosis?
20:59–32:53
4
How does the concept of “land health” differ from simple stability or stasis?
32:53–43:13
5
Why are soil fertility and biodiversity essential for a healthy land community?
43:13–53:58
6
How do local land‑use decisions (e.g., farming, forestry, development) affect the broader land community?
53:58–1:01:43
7
What role should humans play in the land community, and are we more important than other species?
1:01:43–1:02:58
8
What are Millstein’s next research projects and how might they influence environmental policy?
1:02:58–1:03:10
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