In my conversation with Rev. Dr Carmen Lansdowne about her book Wearing a Broken Indigene Heart on the Sleeve of Christian Mission (CMU Press, 2025), she emphasised the priority of truth-telling over comfort. Her work does not offer a polished narrative of reconciliation or a toolkit for “better mission.” Instead, it confronts Christian mission with its unresolved colonial entanglements and asks whether the church is willing to pursue justice rather than seek emotional closure. Carmen’s language of a “broken heart” names the cost of remaining Christian while being Indigenous within institutions that continue to benefit from colonial structures. In our interview, she spoke candidly about vulnerability as a theological practice, not as confession for its own sake but as witness. The book also challenges dominant ways of knowing. As Carmen explains, Indigenous epistemologies reveal how Western theology has privileged abstraction and certainty at the expense of relational responsibility and right action. For anyone engaged in theology, ministry, or scholarship, especially in North American, European, or settler contexts, this is a deeply unsettling yet necessary challenge. During our conversation, Carmen also highlighted helpful resources and ongoing reflections available on her website, which readers and listeners may find valuable. You can explore them here. She also writes regularly on Substack, where you can follow or subscribe to keep engaging with her thoughts beyond the book. Wearing a Broken Indigene Heart on the Sleeve of Christian Mission poses a difficult but important question: What kind of church emerges when justice matters more than innocence? It is a question worth sitting with, uncomfortably and honestly. Amisah Bakuri (PhD) is an Assistant Professor in the Faculty of Social Sciences and Humanities at Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam. Her work explores the intersections of religion, sexuality, gender, and migration, especially within African diasporic communities in the Netherlands. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

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