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Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 4/21

28 Apr 2025

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Chapter 1: What are Rory and Mal's thoughts on Nas' picks and bad beats?

0.031 - 15.369 Nora Jones

This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Hey, it's Nora Jones, and my podcast, Playing Along, is back with more of my favorite musicians. Check out my newest episode with Josh Groban. You related to the Phantom at that point.

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15.429 - 17.131 Rory

Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that.

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17.191 - 26.241 Mal

That's so funny. Share each day with me Each night, each morning

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26.761 - 33.362 Nora Jones

Listen to Nora Jones is Playing Along on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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35.857 - 51.139 Rory

I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend who's much more famous than I am. I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel. On our podcast The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup.

51.319 - 56.827 Unknown

Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important.

57.287 - 64.918 Rory

Listen to The Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeart Podcast presents Soccer Moms. So I'm Leanne. Yeah. This is my best friend Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the hip since high school. A redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips. This is a podcast, we're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey.

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With all the snacks and drinks. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Oh, they had a BOGO. Well, then you got it. Listen to Soccer Moms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Chapter 2: Is there a double standard for men dating younger women?

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Or Rakim rather. I forgot.

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525.265 - 546.472 Mal

It was a weird time. And then you're taking two singles back to back with Hip Hop Is Dead using the Thief Scene beat. I was confused on so much what was going on at that time. Hit Boy gave Nas new life. I guess. That's a real narrative, though. That's a real thing. People was happy to hear Nas. I love that they connected.

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546.492 - 564.622 Mal

People kill me all the time when I say lock in with one producer, but I think that's when you make your best music. He needed to do that, but... That's a stretch. Like, Hit-Boy, of course, legend in his own right, but gave Nas... I don't know about that. Nas was... Okay, because when you say new life, it kind of sounds like Nas was dead out here. No. Nas's career wasn't dead.

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565.143 - 583.306 Mal

But I do understand he gave him a new kind of frequency. He gave him a new sound. And I think... more of an output. Cause Nas never had an output like that. I think, okay. I will give this comment some credit then. Cause yes, that gave Nas a new way of putting it.

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Yeah. But I understand it kind of like new life.

585.609 - 605.935 Mal

It's like Nas didn't need new life. Like this is Nas we talking about. Cause before like the King's disease, life is good existed, which is close to a classic album. So I don't really know about new life, but anyways, it was, it was cool to see. I've liked the, Our pod for the last few months, because I feel like we're back to just discussing music.

605.955 - 620.022 Mal

Of course, we're talking about baddies and bullshit, but I like having those nerdy convos. That's why I love to have Mech on. But I like to see people react to music shit for real, not Stan beef bullshit. Like the Day 26 convos.

620.002 - 646.583 Mal

video comments are all about music yeah no messy shit no puff shit like i love that we can get engagement this way rather than always having to do i like this comment right here renaissance man underscore the seven says even if you owe me it's considered good many don't agree there's still not enough evidence of him doing those type of records to say that oh i can do that when i want to nah and i absolutely love nas i ran through the katie sir katie and magic series

Chapter 3: What are the worst brands of water according to the hosts?

731.375 - 749.736 Mal

I didn't really watch it, but I mean, I guess I get where she's coming from. If that's what she's saying that the men her age or have a little bit of more of a toxic masculinity thing. Yeah, I can, I can understand that. But if she goes too young, she's also going to run into the toxic masculinity thing. She has to stay with the young millennials. Toxic masculinity doesn't have an age.

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750.197 - 769.416 Mal

I would have rather her just say she likes younger guys. Toxic masculinity doesn't always have an age, but there are some preconceived beliefs within different generations. Different generations believe certain things. Like, for example, there's a bunch of articles on how Gen Z is more susceptible to the Andrew Tate rhetoric because that's...

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769.396 - 788.12 Mal

because of how they grew up being sheltered, not really going out and seeing the world, being on the internet, the addiction to porn and all this women hating rhetoric. It's become very prominent in Gen Z men. So there is, so no toxic, there isn't just one set of generation that's toxic, but some more than others.

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Some are more susceptible to things more than others due to the media they were exposed to, due to the things that was cool when they were Growing up, the belief systems that their parents had, the music, the movies, everything, all of that has an effect.

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So if she's dating people Rory's age in comparison to dating people that might be in their late 20s or early 40s, it's going to be a little bit different. So I understand what she was saying. Yeah, I'm probably a little bit more progressive than my father is. just my generation period. But it is odd to what Damaris just said too.

819.949 - 833.669 Mal

The generation under me is like more toxic than my dad's generation. Of course. That's what I'm saying. Toxic masculinity doesn't have an age. Like it's not, it's how you were raised, where you were raised. Like to me, that's more so what determines that.

833.689 - 834.41 Rory

It's not just the age.

834.43 - 853.462 Mal

Definitely zip code is a big part of it. It's not just the age. Like that's why, again, I would have rather, I felt like, and I love Tracee Ellis Ross. I'm a huge fan of hers. I thought that, you know, she just, her saying because, That's why she dates younger people because of the toxic message. I'm just like, I would rather her just say, I just like younger guys.

853.542 - 867.593 Mal

Well, that also could just be her experience. That could have been the experience that she's had. No, it's always your personal experience. But I'm just saying what she said and the reason for her dating younger guys, I thought was just like, that doesn't make any sense. Because you can find a young guy that's... More toxic.

Chapter 4: What allegations are being discussed regarding Shannon Sharpe?

867.653 - 889.453 Mal

Y'all say I'm toxic. Way more toxic. These little YNs, 27, they be talking to chicks. I'm like, yo, why they talking to these girls? But I don't think that Tracee Ellis Ross is dating YNs. She's dating younger men, but she's not dating YNs. I mean, you don't know that. I don't know that, but I can assume. We all live on assumptions here. Yeah. She could have been front row at Lil T.J. 's trial.

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I could see her dating Lil Y in just for the, you know, just for the thrill. Like, I don't know if this little nigga going, you know, rob me or not, but let's just see. But, I mean, we've all had the older men have had the conversation of they like dating younger women.

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I had that conversation recently with a man that's heading into his 40s where he likes dating younger women, not creepily young, but women who haven't been... The older women get, the more we see and the smarter we become and the more... if you want to say damaged, we become because the fantasy is gone, right?

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The younger you are, the more you still hold on to the fantasy of this dream man and believe in that dream man. As you come into, you learn more, you come into contact with more men. It's like, oh, I'm chasing a unicorn. And this is more than likely not real. So if someone's love bombing me, more than likely this will not last. You don't really believe the things you used to.

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You lose your naivety. So It's easier to date. Even if you are trying to be a good guy, it's easier to date. I can see why they say it's easier to date younger women because they're more likely to believe you. Even if you are really a good guy, they're more likely to believe you. An older woman is more likely to give you a hard time and make you really have to prove how good of a guy you are.

955.896 - 975.569 Mal

Yeah, because you can't bullshit. They've seen the bullshit. Beautiful way to just say young girls are easy to manipulate. But that was my thing with Tracy said what she said. I'm like, oh, you could run laps around these little young dudes. I would have let her manipulate me at 21, 22. Tracee Ellis? Hell yeah. Okay. I'm not mad at that. She could manipulate me now. Yeah, me too.

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I believe anything she says. I believe that all older men are toxic. I've seen it. I've met all of them. I've met every one of them. Yeah, they're all toxic. Well, yeah, if roles are reversed, we couldn't get that shit off. Hell no. Y'all get that shit off all the time. No, guys, older guys date younger girls, but they get shit about it. And I kind of think they shouldn't.

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You can see an older guy walking a restaurant you at with a younger girl and you and whoever you're at the table with, y'all gonna start talking about that shit.

1002.878 - 1030.422 Mal

no cut it out it depends on how yo it depends on how young if if i can see that that girl was way too young then yeah we're gonna talk shit but we automatically 50 year old man walks into a restaurant you're at with a 24 25 year old girl you're gonna have something to say yes because that's real that's a huge age difference yeah that's a 20 something year age difference a dude that's seven years older than his girl nobody's checking for that that happens all the time we're not talking about seven years we're not talking like what tracy we're talking about significantly younger than

Chapter 5: How do Rory and Mal view the impact of age gaps in relationships?

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That doesn't happen.

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1041.673 - 1042.514 Rory

Especially at her age.

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What women do, because women are not used to that. So if a woman is dating a guy, even remember I told y'all I went on a date with a guy that was three years younger than me. And I'm like, he's like younger than me. Tracy Ellis Rose is 52 years old. How old do you think the man she did? I'm sure she's dating men in their early 40s. All right, I'm sure she has too.

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I'm talking about when she says she dates younger men. I'm sure she's talking about men in their early 40s, maybe late, late 30s.

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1066.09 - 1068.192 Nora Jones

I don't think that she's dating early 30s.

1068.212 - 1084.109 Mal

She's definitely talking about 30s, man. Nice little 32-year-old. I don't think so. But I mean, if that's what you guys took from that, that's not what I took from that. Even if it's a 35-year-old, it's a 17-year difference. Yeah. If Tracee Ellis walked in here right now, her boyfriend was 35 and she's 52. People are going to talk about her too.

1084.169 - 1097.255 Mal

People are going to talk about her quicker than they're going to talk about the men. No, but it's a different talk though. It's a different, and that's my point. It's a different talk when it's a woman with a guy. It's not a difference. Y'all niggas dragged Drea to the ends of the fucking earth.

1097.936 - 1099.058 Rory

It's not a different talk.

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No, but that was different because she was actually around him and his girlfriend since they were in high school. That whole situation was different. That's why they gave Dre a shit about that. Because Jalen's ex-girl and Dre were actually, like, she was mentoring Jalen's ex-girl. They gave her shit about, they were like, he's the same age as your son. That's what they were giving her shit about.

Chapter 6: What are the implications of the allegations on Shannon Sharpe's career?

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Yeah, it does happen. Where? Just because you don't see it because you don't care about broke people. So you're not checking for what broke niggas is doing.

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I'm not checking for what broke people are doing.

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When we're talking about this and when we're in people's business, they're celebrities. So they have money. You only know their business because they're celebrities that have money. So you're not checking for the business of people who are not celebrities with money. So you can't sit up there and say, well, we don't hear about them. Of course you don't. They're broke. You don't know them.

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Why would you know them?

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him no all right but demarius what we're saying is this if you you could be walking outside the chances of you seeing a younger girl with an older significantly older man and he's not well off is what what slim to none okay walk down collins that's y'all's experience i see it you won't where you see it at that's not for me to speak on situations because these are people that i know but i see it they fucking with an older broke man he's not well off

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They not fucking with a younger broke nigga. Go fuck with an older broke nigga. I don't know why y'all think that people don't, that broke people don't date. I'm not saying broke people don't date. I'm just saying a woman is not seeking out. No, she's not seeking out, but women date men who don't have any money. People who don't have any money date.

1255.268 - 1275.032 Mal

Just in general, like percentage wise, usually what a stereotype would be. If you walk down Collins in Miami right now, you will run into old men with young women and they're not famous, but you can assume one thing that they are. Yeah, that's Miami. Yeah. All right. Manhattan. Rich. All right. So where do you want me to go? Little Rock, Arkansas.

1275.072 - 1275.813 Nora Jones

I don't know.

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Anywhere. Broke older men with young girls. No, but them young girls are fucking him for that check that he get on the first day. We're not doing that.

Chapter 7: What advice do Rory and Mal give regarding consent and boundaries?

1415.219 - 1426.274 Nora Jones

And this season, I've sat down with Alessia Cara, Sarah McLachlan, John Legend, and more. Check out my new episode with Josh Groban. You related to the Phantom at that point.

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1426.474 - 1428.177 Rory

Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that.

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1428.237 - 1439.472 Mal

That's so funny. Share each day with me. Each night, each morning. Say you love me.

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1442.742 - 1467.555 Rory

So come hang out with us in the studio and listen to Playing Along on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What Coogler did that I think was so unique, he's the writer-director.

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1467.876 - 1484.865 Mal

Who do you think he is? I don't know. You mean, like, the president? You think Canada has a president? You think China has a president? God, I love that thing. I use it all the time. I wrap it in a blanket and sing to it at night.

1486.212 - 1498.427 Rory

It's like the old Polish saying, not my monkeys, not my circus. Yep. It was a good one. I like that saying. It is an actual Polish saying. It is an actual Polish saying. Better version of play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Yes.

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Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift who said that for the first time. I actually, I thought it was.

1502.552 - 1524.538 Rory

I got that wrong. Listen to the Nick, Dick, and Paul show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fault in Our Stars, and now I guess also as the co-host of The Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast. I'm Daniel Alarcón, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids.

1524.558 - 1546.487 Rory

My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game and I fell in love. On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. For us, soccer, football, is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team. Very debatable.

Chapter 8: How do the hosts conclude their discussion on the episode's themes?

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Nah, he a real nigga, word to me. And when God rise up from the dead, he really going to reward him for the real ass shit he doing and how he contribute in this society. We appreciate you, my brother. And this is why I believe in double standards, especially when they work in our benefit. It's fine if girls just give you head and that's it. It's done. You just eat some pussy.

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And you just sitting there hard. That's where I was going to go with it. Now you're just sitting here hard. If I meet a girl, I'm turned on. I want to have sex now. So it's like, how you do that and just leave? Maybe he got off. That's what he got off from it. That's crazy. You saying he nutted while giving a girl a head? Girls have done it. Y'all don't think men can do it?

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I've definitely watched. I've heard of situations where men have nutted. I've definitely came too quick. and then pretended like I was just going back down to eat the pussy.

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That's an angel trick.

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1755.17 - 1761.224 Mal

Y'all don't know no nigga that ever did that. I don't want to hear that shit. Damaris, a nigga came from eating you out?

1761.324 - 1762.367 Rory

Nah, no, not me.

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I don't even date men, but I'm saying I've heard of situations of it happening. That's all I'm saying. I'm just not rolling with that. I think y'all think niggas be less horny. I think she's confusing the trick of when you feel like you're about to nut too quick, so you pull out and then you're like, now you're ready to start eating the pussy just to get your thoughts back together. Homie, close.

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Nah, man. I can't. Nah, no. I don't believe that. I do not believe that. I'm letting y'all know right now. I don't believe that men are coming in their jeans. Your homegirl lied. No problem. I don't know, man. I do believe that the man that would eat pussy fully clothed probably could not. I don't believe that eating pussy. Lock that nigga up. I agree.

1807.756 - 1832.001 Mal

The nigga that's able to do that, put him in prison because that's a small peek into the shit that he can do. For sure. To the society. And he did it in Wrangler jeans. Yeah, but get him off the streets. Come in in your jeans while you eat some. Like, come on, fam. Come on, dog. We know you. I love women. I get horny, too. But a nigga ain't never been that horny. Come on yourself. Fully clothed.

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