Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What story does Hitmaka share about his appearance on Cam Newton's podcast?
In the eight months. I've been telling you.
I've been telling you.
But how does that make you feel when something like that that you did eight months ago starts to go viral today and you may be in a relationship, you may have found a lady that you really love and you're like, how does that make... It's like, I got to deal with this shit. That's so old. Bro, we're in the circus, bro. It just is what it is at this point. I'm telling you, like...
If you don't go viral, then people feel like it never happened, bro. So it's almost like, check it out, right? If I just lay back and I'm just in the studio, I don't post no videos of me creating in the studio with these different artists, niggas going to say I fell off.
I purposely have taken my tag off of all the records that are on the radio right now just to confuse motherfuckers to where it's like... what's going on. It's where they go check the credits and they see what's really happening. But it's like, this shit just different now, bro. Like, it's just all based on bullshit. Why would you do that though? Like, why would you take your tag off?
I mean, I'm tired of hearing my own tag. Like, I done ran this shit. I had a number one every year for 10 years straight. Yeah, but I mean, shit. I thought about changing my producer name and just ghost producing over a whole different name. Yo, suffering from success is hilarious.
Like, I'm so sick of this shit, though.
I'm tired of him, my tag, man.
Number four is my favorite number anyways.
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Chapter 3: What unique game did Cam Newton play during the podcast?
I don't even know why I try to do this type of shit. Do you think your, I guess, rebrand and comeback, do you think the messiness helped with it? Yeah. Outside of like the actual stats of what we know, because that was even a slow burn of like, oh, wait, Hitmaker's Berg. And, you know, I'd like to think us as podcasters specifically played a hand in your rebrand. Y'all did.
But do you think the messiness is really what helped push? That forward. Well, the rebrand kind of started on love and hip hop. So when I did that and like the crazy part is that I didn't know that like love and hip hop was like guilty pleasures for like a Nicki Minaj and shit like that. Like I knew at that time her and Mona Scott had been as remember they had the mixed Moscato and shit.
I knew she was aware of what was going on. And then once I was working with Nicki and she was just like, yo, like. You're hilarious on this shit. You could say my name, say you working with me, say you doing this, that and the third. So at that point, I was in the thick of some bullshit when I was rebranding. Like I literally came back to L.A. So this is what really happened.
I was living in Atlanta and I was miserable because Atlanta was real clicky at the time. Like it would be polo in them over there and it'd be such and such and them over there, T-Pain and them over there. And I wasn't like, nigga, I thought I had Ebola at the time. Cause niggas just wasn't fucking with Youngberg. Like it was like, nah, don't let him in. Don't do this. Don't do that. So.
Was it the stigma that you had with you? Like it just felt like you was messy? No, it wasn't about being messy. I was the first person that went through trials and tribulations on world star and shit like that or whatever. So it just wasn't a good look to be around me. Like it was just like, I wasn't cool. So at that point I'm like, damn, I wrote this record.
at a studio and I fucking sent it to Vincent Herbert's cousin.
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Chapter 4: How did Hitmaka and HitBoy resolve their beef?
And he ended up getting the record to Vincent Herbert and Tamar Braxton, which Tamar and Vince had that TV show at the time and they had all that shit going on. They flew me to LA and I did the record for him. And that's what prompted me to move back to LA and like, be on Love & Hip Hop. That's when the girl Hazel E and Ray J and all them reached out to me like, yo, you could do this.
It would be great TV. It would be good for us.
Chapter 5: How does Hitmaka view the current landscape of female rappers?
And that's how it just started. And then at that point, once it said action on that shit, it was all bullshit from there. It was all bullshit. Yo, bro, you never can make this shit up. I started the show and this was so fucked up and maybe I am being messy right now.
Chapter 6: What insights does Hitmaka provide about relationships and dating in the industry?
I won't name those names or whatever, but the show started. So like it was a mixer meeting and like Mona and them all there. And they, they, they, they show you all the girls on the show and they're like, who you slept with on this cast? And it'd be like her, her, her, her, blah, blah, blah. So they like brewing up the fucking gumbo before.
you even get into the shit so when I got there another woman who's also very popular now and very famous or whatever who I won't say her name out of respect to whatever her situation is she was my girlfriend on the show so we dated and she was my girlfriend we filmed for damn near three months I went to Miami to work with Puff when he was doing like Money Making Mitch that album whatever and when I went to Miami me and a girl that fell out and then fucking when I got back they fired her off the show
And then they just dropped me at Hazel Lee house. Like, yo, like, Hey, literally when I got back from Miami, this is what they said. They sent me a text. They like, yo, wear some, um, gym shorts, tank top t-shirt. I'm thinking I'm going to play basketball. And they dropped me at Hazel Lee house. So at that point, I'm like, yo, I quit the show. I'm not going to do this shit.
You know what I'm saying? Bro, nigga, Mona Scott appeared like Cruella de Vil in there. Like, Berg, you're like Stevie J of loving hip hop Hollywood. We fired such and such. Just go in there and be yourself. So when I'm in the episode and I'm like, yo, you're not my girl. You've never been my girl. I'm it's reality. Like, you know, like I was just dating. I don't even know you.
I'd already known Hazel and she brought me to the show and all that stuff. And we got much love and respect for her. But it was insane that they fired this beautiful girl off the show who I was actually. Yeah. Yeah. And then they just dropped me in there. And then that's how that happened. And then at a certain point, I was just like, fuck it. Like this is what it is and this is what it is.
And I think in her mind, she was like, fuck it too. And it just was a fucking snowball effect from there. You know what I'm saying? And shit, it got wicked. I mean. That's the only way to be successful on Love & Hip Hop is to say, fuck it. Because why even do it? Like if you're just going to kind of just play the middle. Yeah. You can't do Love & Hip Hop and try to have this moral grounding.
yeah it just i don't be like the quiet one in the corner it's like it's not gonna work what's the point of doing especially when the finances come into play because it's not like we're getting paid like for shooting we'll shoot for fucking nine months and you don't get paid i'm talking about nigga head to toe in zara i'm spending every dollar in zara to have a decent outfit or whatever time because niggas was fucked up ain't nobody really had no money at that time yeah and then shit you don't get paid into the episode airs so if you're not in the episode you shot for nine months you could have been doing that they clipped you from it you don't get paid we are 3200 yeah
Come here, Hazel. Come here, booty. Hazel Lee, I'm looking at the camera. I love you. I respect you. You are a great woman. That was 2014, 11 years ago, going on 12. It's no smoke. And I'm glad to see everybody's moved on and being successful. I respect that. But that's just wild knowing that that's how that started. Like, they literally dropped you off there.
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Chapter 7: How does Hitmaka feel about the impact of AI on music production?
Now, if I go back and look, I could be like, I could see why Bird came across as an asshole on this shit. Bro, they... It's like, I don't even know what y'all got me in here doing. Like, y'all dropped me off at some girl house and I don't really... You're leaving out a big part of his story, though, that we didn't address. Leaving the money-making Mitch Sessions to then be dropped off at Hazel...
remember I went viral for the puff shit when I was talking to Ray J and you was like what did you say that when I was doing them sessions the money making me shit that's when he said that wild shit to me oh okay see when he puts it like that okay so now we can piece it together like all right so hit make ain't as crazy as y'all try to make him seem no and I don't think it's crazy that did he try to hit on him that checks out I feel like it checks out
did you not read the paperwork that guy is nuts yo did you see what he did to that other producer he could he ain't had to throw me nothing i would have he just couldn't been in a room i would have took care of cassie for him you know i'm saying free of charge yeah well you gotta pay me for that fuck you mean off the strength on the house this is what i do that would be your verse swap you could have this beat for free no for sure no easily
I'll pay every co-producer. Don't worry about it. We ain't supposed to be making jokes and that type of shit, man. Everybody chill out. Nah, free him. You know what I'm saying? He's just a nasty nigga. He'll be home soon. You know, it is what it is. He needs to sit down for a little bit. I hope he disappears in thin air and just like, it doesn't ruin his legacy anymore.
So me and Rory was talking about that. Like, what do you feel like will be the route he takes when he is released from prison? Does he jump right back into the industry, into the mix? Or does he go to Bali and live on a beach for 10 years? I would hope that he go like T.D. Jakes, you know what I'm saying? And just like clean up his image, go lean into religion.
But there's a strong chance he might come out gangsta gay. Gangsta gay is crazy. He gonna walk out like Omar? Gangsta gay. I'm talking about the wire nigga. But yo, but do you feel like people, he kind of has been a gangsta gay for his whole career. That's what I'm saying. Do you even feel like people care?
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Chapter 8: What does Hitmaka think about the role of A&Rs in today's music industry?
Like, do you think people even care? But now I think when he get out, he'll be 60 years old. I just think that he needs to finish the rest of his life off peacefully, to be honest. That's what I wish for him. And I got mad respect for his kids. I actually fuck with Christian and all them. I've done all Christian records, a lot of different shit.
So when I say this shit, I feel bad when they go viral after the fact because it's like they don't deserve, you know what I'm saying, to get the ricochet or whatever it is. But I just don't know how to lie, bro. Like if y'all ask me a question, I'm going to say the truth. Right. If he gets out and hits you to work, would you work with him? Absolutely not. All money ain't good money.
That's a fact. Yeah. But if he was rehabilitated by the state of New York, you don't believe in our judicial system? No, I don't. He should be fine when he gets out. That's how it works. Who was the mayor recently again? Like, yo, come on, man. Stop. Yeah, he's the mayor. He's still the mayor. Yeah, it's fucking crazy. What else you been working on?
I mean, I didn't know you took your tag off anything. Now I got to go look at the credits to see what the fuck you produced. Yeah, like, why would you? Now I don't know the shit you doing, man. Like, I mean, I think I can kind of still hear your sound, though. Like, I think your sound is your sound. Like, you could take the tag off, like, but I could still hear your sound, though.
What if I'm... Everything. I don't know. I'm looking at my gram. I don't even know, bro. I'm in the matrix right now, for real, for real. So, to be honest, shit...
all projects I'm on probably got I got like four on Ty Dolla Sign that come out Friday probably did like eight on Chris Brown new album that's about to come out um shit I'm on YFN Lucci new album um I'm on everybody I'm Joey Badass um everything G Herbo anything that's dropping that's coming out I'm on it yeah I mean it ain't a year that I don't have a hundred placements like it's been that way for like three years four years whatever happened to that record when we was in the studio you played with um man that shit was crazy I think it was
T.I. Cardi. Yeah. That was supposed to be for my producer album. That song was great. That shit is. 2 Chainz was on it. I did it with Tay Keith and a few other co-producers. But it's just so hard to do a producer album, bro. I know Rory can. You know what I'm saying? When you're not the artist in the lead of doing an album, it's so many different moving parts and shit.
You'll get frustrated with it. And it kind of like... I serve as such a large crowd of artists that it's kind of like to stop that, to do a DJ Khaled album, you literally have to stop working with people and just work on that. And it's just like not beneficial.
Like if I'm getting like 30, 40 grand a record, like am I going to stop getting 30, 40 grand a record when I'm doing a hundred of them a year just to work on my project? Right. Yeah. Nah. Don't make sense. Cause I thought you were going to lean into that route. Um, forgive me. What's the name of the record? Lotto's on it. Uh, thought box. Yeah. I was on that. That no, I record is a record.
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