Chapter 1: What is Joey Bad@$$'s new mixtape 'Lonely At The Top' about?
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All right, Rory, we are back. Today we are joined by somebody who we've had some conversations about throughout the year. Throughout the years. Yeah, one of the biggest troublemakers in hip-hop at the current moment. That's what it is. No, no, no.
This is he's pretending to sit this way.
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Chapter 2: How did Joey Bad@$$ take on the West Coast music scene?
Like looking at the blog, like that's why I was the blogger because the, you know, you went to the sites to see what was new, what was developing. Now it's like, I don't even know, like shit just become the trend now. And then, you know, that's how people kind of find out about it. But like back then I think it was more of a,
discovery-friendly environment, if it makes sense, in the landscape of the game. How did you navigate that, though? Because coming off the blog era where you were young and kind of a trailblazer in that regard and understood that world and things shifting, whether it be with Shipes, you were independent as well. How did you manage to go with that shift from blog era to streaming?
Or blog era to we're doing iTunes $9.99 and now all of a sudden it's $9.99 for the months. and now streaming's here. How'd you navigate that? You know, what's funny is, you know, I just really roll with the punches, but the funny thing about it is I had the opportunity to really get in front of it, but I think my mindset was just a little bit close to it.
Cause I'm just like, like, what the fuck is this? Like I, I don't know how I'm gonna understand it. When Spotify first came around, I didn't really fucking understand what it was. I mean, it was presented like, yo, this is the future, boom, boom, boom.
But I couldn't really understand how it was the future because I'm like, okay, but people could just download the music on iTunes or some shit like that. I'm like, what's the... what's really the difference? Like, I'm like, okay, people listen to music on YouTube, boom, boom, boom. And then, you know, I was selling tickets, you know what I'm saying?
So it was like, I didn't really feel the need to be like, kind of take heed to what was going on there. But I remember when there was like, there was like a Spotify story back in, I want to say like 2015, 2014.
and um it was on i think was it like fox news it was one of one of these news stations and they had used my first album as like one of the first examples of where streaming was going yeah like they was using like my my my metrics my data and shit like that was like they was using me they was using like drake they was using like a few other people and i was like
I remember seeing that and being like, but I don't get it though. Like, you know what I mean? I just, I just don't think that like I really tapped in and like I had a chance to really capitalize and I missed that opportunity. You know what I'm saying? So after that, it just became about like rolling with the punches. Like, oh, okay. Like now playing catcher about like 2016.
I'm like, okay, I get it. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? What are some of the things that, cause obviously you got, you know, life is,
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Chapter 3: What does Joey Bad@$$ think about the current state of New York rap?
I honestly wasn't prepared. I wasn't, you know. That's what I'm saying. What are we doing?
before we get to the rest of the battle was if the internet did not have the narrative that started after rulers back would sorry not sorry have came out the way it did even down to what i would say isn't a shot but it's a little jab at cole like there were shots where i felt like you saw the energy of hey people took this as a diss so if you did all right sorry not sorry yeah yeah yeah i say um there's a line in there too i'm like um
you know, bunch of niggas with attitudes. Like, you know what I'm saying? That was clearly addressing the people on the West Coast who was feeling the way, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, yo, like, I'm just, you know, my response to it was like, yo, I'm just bigging up my city. You know what I'm saying? Like, at that point, I'm like, you know what?
Because for me, what was important to me in the beginning, and it's like, I don't know. I don't know if it was a good thing in hindsight or a bad thing, but I'm like, one thing I'm not going to do is get on Twitter and be walking it back or some shit like that. Like, yo, I ain't mean it like that.
I felt secure in what I meant, and then I'm already speaking to my people on that side, and they telling me how they feel, and they not taking no offense. I'm like, yo, fuck the internet. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Fuck what they say. Complete opposite of what J. Cole did. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I mean, he takes a shot at, and sorry, not sorry.
But, but even that, even that though, it's like, you know, they won't delete that later. Joey won't. I won't. You know what I'm saying? Like it was, it was commentary. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not like a, I didn't, I, even now I'm like, okay, you know, I, I, I did think about that one though. Cause I'm like, all right now. is a little bit more intention. You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, okay. You know what I'm saying? Like, motherfuckers... It's not disrespectful, though. It was the epitome of what this whole thing is, of what hip-hop is. Right. To me, what you were doing. So that's why, you know... It was good to see the guys get out and, you know, get the pins moving, everybody rapping. I love that.
You know, I'm a little older, so I know what that part of the culture is. It's like this is rap. Never thought it was going to get serious or it was going to go left. Right. But I didn't understand how some people were really like offended, though, and really felt the way like, nah, fuck that. I'm like, but this is what they supposed to be doing is rapping. Yeah, and I mean, I don't know.
I feel like the internet was offended. I don't think, like, I don't think, like, Daylight was offended. I think the internet was fueling it. No, no, no, Daylight wasn't offended. I think anyone like that participated in it. I mean, Daylight been having conversations since the beginning. Since the rulers back.
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Chapter 4: What challenges does Joey Bad@$$ face while touring?
So, at some point, they heard it. You know what I'm saying? So, I knew... I knew that that was gonna happen. I didn't know that it was gonna take Red Bull so long to put it out. So by the time that happened, I'm like, okay, if I'm my enemies, I have a plan of action to respond to this, you know, when this shit dropped, you know, it dropped, it went crazy.
And just like I predicted, motherfuckers had a move the day after, which made it look like to the public, like, oh, like he, like he went in the studio last night. Like, nah, nah, niggas was prepared. Niggas was prepared. And, And again, I'm not here to have you start trouble with past.
It was an amazing moment, I think, for hip hop because everyone just rapped and everyone became cool and friends and everything's fine now. I will go back to some of the stuff we talked about. Because we was on your side the entire time. But before Daylight got involved, we sat here nervous for you just because of who Light is and what his past career- That's what he do. He's a battle rapper.
That's what he does.
Chapter 5: What role does Joey Bad@$$ play in 'Raising Kanan'?
And Light, I think, actually is one of the few battle rappers that does make music that's good as well, which is tough. So we was a little nervous, and boy, was we proven fucking wrong.
Chapter 6: How has acting impacted Joey Bad@$$'s career?
Yeah, I don't think I- Where's Daylight at? I don't even know. Were you a little surprised that Daylight didn't- Come the way we thought Paul is the way we usually see in a battle with some of those by his standard, because I think daylight is an alien. I wouldn't say that he didn't, you know, Paul's come the way that like, you know, he usually comes.
But I think one thing that I understood about it is that he was in a different arena. This is a different stage for Daylight. A lot of those battles. Yeah, but we're not on the stage. Okay, so it's not the performative aspect of battle, right? He's delivering on beats. You know, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's the first of his kind of a battle that Daylight has had.
you know what I'm saying yeah as far as for sure yeah in the public eye or trading tracks you know what I'm saying usually he's on the stage yeah and I think you know this whole thing would have went down different if it was like on the stage yeah of course so I'm like you know that was one thing that I knew like okay cool that's definitely one thing to my advantage, right?
And I even say it, I'm like, yo, no matter what stage they put you on, you still ass down. You know what I'm saying? That was my thinking. You know what I mean? That was my thinking with that whole thing. But then two, I feel like one thing that gave me a confident edge over the whole situation was when he did the backpack thing. Because I'm like, You shouldn't have to do that. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? So that made me feel like, okay, this is like, I could do this shit. You know what I'm saying? This is beatable. You know what I'm saying? Because now you're leaning into optics and shit like that, which I'm like, you're the great, you know what I'm saying? You don't need to do this. You don't need to do this.
You're leaning on, oh, I knew this before shit.
Right. You know what I'm saying? So that kind of gave me a little bit of... I feel like power and energy in a situation where it's just like, I was able to approach it like a little bit differently. But yeah, now shout out to Day though, man. I really do love Day. That's my man. And like, you know what I'm saying? It was, it was, that's my guy. Daylight is one of the greatest.
I just want to know where he at. I haven't heard anything from him. Is he posting on social media? Like we haven't seen Daylight at all. I heard he dropping, he dropping a joint soon. The album?
Yeah.
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Chapter 7: What future projects does Joey Bad@$$ have in mind?
But then when the Red Bull shit happened, I'm like, okay, cool. So I'm my opponents, right? I heard this shit for two months. I got my move ready. Yeah. And, you know, right the next day, you know, Ray Vaughn dropped. And then I'm like, okay, cool. I went to the studio that night and I made the finals. You know what I'm saying? Boom.
But then after that, I'm like, okay, what is this nigga like going to do? You know what I'm saying? I'm like, I have no idea what this motherfucker is going through. So I'm waiting. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I'm keeping the pen hot. Yeah. Just in case, because I don't know when this thing is going to drop. Then he start tweeting shit and all that. I'm like, all right.
They say my now is Monday.
You know what I'm saying, nigga? So you drop the joint and I'm like, oh, I bet. You know what I'm saying? You know what it felt like? I felt like, okay, cool. It was almost like when you get in the ring with your opponent and you feel that first punch, you're like, oh. That's it? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, oh, okay. So then, yeah, I went to the studio. I called Lux.
I said, yo, yeah, it's time. It's time. Let's go ahead and finish him. It's time. It's time. It's like, yo, I'm about to send you this joint. He sent it back lightning quick. I ain't going to lie. Yeah, shout out to Lux. No, Lux is, he's, he's, he's, he's a, I watched some of Lux's freestyles up to this day.
Of course, it's tough to be objective, but where do you, where do you rank my town in sports? If Complex were to put out every list that they used to put out of the top 50 disc records of all time, of where My Town lands. I don't know where I'd put it. Because to me, I think it's a little higher. Of course, the dust has to settle and it just happened.
But I think when time passes, I think that My Town record might be up there in one of the greatest records. battle records, in my opinion. Yeah. If you look at everything that was happening with that entire week and how crazy that shit was, that was kind of the stamp that... And of course, I have a New York bias, but after that, I was like, this is over, man.
I don't really... I don't care too much after this. This is done now. We spoke about it here.
This is done.
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Chapter 8: How does Joey Bad@$$ navigate the shift from music to acting?
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