Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What does Lola Brooke say about the difference between 'ratchet' and 'ghetto'?
Deadass.
Deadass is one of those. Yes. I bet is like, yeah. Can you give us the five different tones of I bet? And we could guess what happens after. After that tone, I bet. See, now that's channeling my New York lingo. And off the top of my dome, I don't know.
I just be like.
All right, so if Maul called you ghetto. I bet. I rock with it. Okay, that's not aggressive. Yeah, that's not too aggressive. That's like you say one more thing and then it's like, I bet. That'd be like, that'd be like, it's on site when I see you, I bet. That's different. Different tone. Yeah. I'm expecting physical confrontation. Yes.
So now, if you, say you see the guy you're dating and he's, he's liking too many pictures of a girl that you kind of know he likes, like, what level I bet is that? I bet don't come back home, nigga.
Ha ha ha.
You want to play? And finally, Damaris has some backup on his podcast.
This what we doing?
I bet.
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Chapter 3: How do New York City boroughs rank in terms of dating?
My get back is moving on. I feel like people say that. I don't know if I believe it though. Nah, I'm living proof. That you... Hey, Lola said I'm living proof. Like, nigga, I moved the fuck on. There's nobody in your past that could say that they did something foul and then you doubled down with that energy. They'd be like, yo, and if I don't, like, 100% move on, I'm not the same person.
Like, you know, it's like, all right, cool, because I do forgive. I forgive. But the relationship will never be the same. It won't be the same. I mean, men, our ego is so weird that like, if I had a girl write a record like Pain about me, I would be like, she still like me. Oh, yeah, of course.
That's why I think things get fucked up with women writers that write amazing records about men because we take it as, oh, she's still thinking about me. But see, that's the thing. Yeah, I feel like women are so emotional that everything is about y'all.
Yeah, that's a fact.
Like, no, I just know how to go back into time and relive that emotion to make music because I'm an artist, but I'm not in that moment no more. Like, I'm cool. At what point did you realize that you wanted to, like...
make music and start rapping like how old were you seven eight really what's your first your earliest memories of hip-hop um 50 cent winksta uh music video damn i'm old i mean i was i was 11 10 when did that come out oh one i was 11. Now, Wankster was before that. I mean, yeah. Yeah, boy, you're getting a little too over it.
When they start saying Wankster, that's like I told y'all one time I was listening to the Raiders, it was like, yo, we about to play a throwback. And then they played Biggie. I was like, well, yeah, this is a throwback. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it is. 30 years ago, I was like, damn. But what would that be for me, though? Your throwback? Wankster? Yeah. Oh, yeah. You were seven years old in 02.
No, but I'm saying, what would I call a Biggie record? It's not like, what would that be for me? Oh, that's like, that's, that's like when they invented fire.
That's like old school.
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Chapter 4: What insights does Lola share about her new EP 'iight bet'?
Yeah, everyone's doing what they own shit. Nobody's here to save you. Nobody's here to save you. They don't care when it matters to them, which they don't owe you anything to begin with. They don't owe it to you. You know what I'm saying? They owe it to themselves as well as you owe it to yourself. So you got to figure it out. Did you have any, because me and Rory talk about it a lot personally.
Do you have anybody that you couldn't wait to meet in the industry and then you met them and it was just like, it just changed your perception about them? You don't have to name names.
Good or bad.
It doesn't have to be good or bad. I'm somebody that bring energy. So I've been around people that don't really vibe out with a lot of people. And I make them laugh. Like for an example, Bryson. Bryson is very much to himself. But I done caught good conversations with him. You know what I'm saying? Like he don't open up to a lot of people. And he gave me advice on things. So I feel like...
Some people may have a bad experience with a certain artist, but you probably just wasn't their cup of tea.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? A lot of people don't look at it like that. Maybe it was me. Maybe my personality.
Maybe it was just too much.
You know what I'm saying? Maybe you ain't doing enough. I mean, we had Bryson up here a few weeks ago, and he was definitely talking about his experience in the music industry. What was that type of advice or conversation you had with him? That was helpful. He said to me, I'll never forget. He brought me out at Rolling Loud in L.A.
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Chapter 5: How does Lola describe her upbringing and its influence on her music?
I'm a Yankee, man. Okay, but your family is from New York as well? Mm-hmm. You give me tranny. You like it tranny. Because I'm from Brooklyn. Like, I was eating saltfish and baked kalu and porridge for breakfast. That's regular for me. Yeah. I think it's the bandana, too, though. That's it. This is Brooklyn, man. Stop playing. How's Brooklyn changed musically?
Obviously, gentrification we don't need to speak about. But music-wise... Based off when you popped to, I don't know, you know, 2001, was a crazy difference in how the music changed. For me? Yeah. I don't feel like it changed. I just feel like the... It's been... Make sure I say this right. Make sure you say it right because they're going to kill you if you know. Right.
I don't feel like it changed, but I feel like... we don't get as knowledge as we... Y'all don't get acknowledged?
Brooklyn?
As we used to? I mean, better... When it comes to New York as opposed to what? Because I feel like... Because I don't feel like it changed. Is Bronx and Brooklyn really period right now? I don't feel like it changed. Like, I feel like... The music is, I feel like music in general is changing. So New York sound is trying to manage.
What is the New York sound?
Drill. Which isn't our sound. Which isn't our sound. But that would be the New York sound. That's what brought New York back was the drill sound. Specifically in Bronx and Brooklyn. That's true. Damn, hold on. And you were part of that too. I mean, not to say all your stuff is drill per se, but... But see, I don't make drill music, but my energy is drill tempo. Yeah. Yes.
And some of your stuff has that... That drill knock or some of that same bass cadence. Yeah, it's the pocky. Yeah. I feel like one of the reasons why, me personally, I like Lola's music when it comes to comparing the rest of rap is that Lola allows herself to be energetic. Like, Lola, like, I can drink Hennessy and hang out the window and listen to Lola's music.
While the rest of this music is like, I got to tie on drugs.
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Chapter 6: What challenges does Lola face as a female rapper in the industry?
Where maybe that wasn't a thing artists had to think about in the beginning. I don't know if this is something that artists didn't have to think about in the beginning, but for me, I can't make music that I can't sell.
Mm-hmm.
Like, if it don't fit for my brand, I'm not trying to fit in. If a song don't fit me, it's not for me. Like, I can't... If a producer in there, he's saying, oh, I think you should talk about... telling a nigga to take you shopping every day. I'm like, I don't, that's not my pop. Like, I like to shop, but I don't care to shop. That's not a marketing plan? Like, that's not. Marketing plan.
Lola goes shopping all over New York City. I mean, shit, the easiest one now, I guess, would just be post Kendrick Drake beef. Just find somebody to say something bad about. But see, that's another thing, too. And then start a Discord channel. Controversy is just not my bop. Like, you know what I'm saying?
So when you ask me that question about if I still had a relationship with this person, it's like, nah, I don't feed into stuff like that. I understand. That don't feed me. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like my energy is very big. And I have to protect it like that. And I come good with that. Like, of course, this is a competitive sport. You know what I'm saying?
But social media makes things so small that I don't feel like it's a friendly competitive sport no more. It gets personal. So... I stay away from me. Yeah. I mean, but at this point, outside of that situation, if somebody did put a record out, not some social media back and forth bullshit, but an actual record, do you feel like that would make you get in the booth or you still want to just chill?
It depends if it's, if I feel like, it depends. And sometimes I'll be like, why would I respond to that? Yeah, I get that. Yeah. Have they thrown shots at you? I feel like I don't, I feel like I would have courted if one of them had threw some shots at Lola. That's what I'm saying. They probably did, but they ain't hit. You like that, baby D? Yeah. You can shoot as much as you want.
If I don't get grazed, the fuck I'm shooting back for? Right. Like, I probably ain't even hear them shots. I don't think I've heard any girls throw shots at Lola, though. No. Like, you do a good job of staying away from that type of shit. See, that's the thing, but I'm pretty sure it's been thrown, but like I said, all jokes aside, I'm living proof. I do not pay attention to bullshit. Yeah.
Like... I respect that. Do we think they'll ever be the male rapper versus female rapper? And I'm not saying like the Hardy and Meg situation because they dated. I'm talking about just a straight up man versus woman. See, I ain't going front. Like, I'm not quick to go neck to neck with a female artist.
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Chapter 7: What is Lola's perspective on the current state of female rappers?
That I agree with. I think women do need to learn how to be alone. People need to learn how to be alone. People. But women too though. Y'all can't be alone. I don't know how to be alone. Women don't know how to be alone. Women love being alone. It be niggas that don't know how to be alone. Y'all know how to not be in relationships, but y'all do not know how to be alone. Thank you.
There's two different things. It's always a bitch in that phone at all times. Women will go stints where there's like, they really just like, I'm eat, pray, love. Like women do shit like that. Men do not do that.
We eat, pray, and then love.
Bitch, I not practice celibacy. Yes, we do. Not, no, we are not. What's the exact date on celibacy? What's the number that makes it? You want to know how long I've practiced celibacy? No, no, no, not you. What's the number? If a guy be like, yo, I ain't had sex in... I'm celibate. Celibacy is a choice. It don't matter the number as long as you practice in it. It don't matter.
Yeah, but I need to know like... If you could go 30 days, is that you discipline yourself? Oh, 30 days isn't that long, yeah. But did you choose it? Celibacy means you chose that path not just damn I ain't ran across no pussy in 30 days.
Yeah.
It's like I am choosing to not have sex for 30 days. I think it's all a choice because if I wanted to have sex even if I don't have I can go buy sex. He's not wrong. And even with a phone, not that there's something I practice, you don't even need to buy sex. You could just find sex on your phone. Okay, but whatever. 30 days is cool.
I think in this era, five days would be... That's what I'm saying. Like, you know, so 30 days is like, okay, I could applaud to it because a lot of people don't know how to... It's not.
For me, it's a day.
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Chapter 8: How does Lola handle relationships in the context of her music career?
Like, I grew up in Brooklyn, New York. I had no choice but to be tough like this. And I'm small with no siblings. What you want? Oh, you're the only child? Yes. Oh, you had to fight, fight. You know what I'm saying? So I had to go out there and be like, yeah, this bro right here, this sis right here. And they got me good. You know, but me, I was straight.
Like, I ain't really have no crazy problems, but I'm out there fighting for my life. I lost a lot as an only child. I'm glad that you prospered. I didn't. You know what I'm saying? I got beat up a lot. If anything, people wanted to protect me because I was so small. I was down to earth. I ain't take no shit from nobody. But it was like, I ain't have no choice but to be this person.
Especially when you small, like people play with you more.
They play with you.
From a young age, you learn that like you have to project out a little bit. People call it Napoleon syndrome, but whatever. Like, no, like I'm going to be heard. You're not going to play with me. I don't care how small I am. Don't play with it. Short women, I get it. Short women. That's why I'm like, don't play with it. Don't judge a book by its cover.
I'm not saying that I'm trying to be on that, but if I got to be on that, then it is what it is. You know what I'm saying? Have you met, because obviously you get the comparisons a lot, and we've obviously talked about it, just the tone of Fox. Have you met Fox yet? Not in person, but we done text and stuff like that.
How much of a, because obviously being from Brooklyn, how much of an influence was Foxy for you though? Fox and Kim is like, you gotta know those two women in rap. Like you have to know. I'm from the style as well as them too. So it was like right in your face. And then I feel like those are two women in the game that are very much Brooklyn.
they see when people used to be like oh why you so this and why you so that you aggressive or whatever the case may be i i start looking at them and saying well i'm a brooklyn girl just like them so why i'm getting punched on kim had her aggressive moments in her music too you know what i'm saying a lot of people forget about little kim but she had she had aggressive aggressive energy and a lot of her music
Yeah, so it's like, why I'm getting punched on? Like, I thought women in Brooklyn was rawr. That's what I am, rawr. But when you go to... So other parts of the country aren't used to New York women. New York niggas are used to New York women, but other people on the other side, like, they're not used to that. And they're like, why are you so aggressive?
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