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Episode 128 | Gaslighting & China Mac On Robbing Kanye

20 Dec 2022

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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This is an iHeart Podcast.

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2.614 - 3.555 Mal

Guaranteed human.

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4.355 - 21.232 Maul

This is going to let me know if you're a serial killer or not. Well, he's watching his carbs. Do you put the patty inside the cocoa bread? Or do you eat it just like the cocoa bread, how they put it in the bag, like right behind each other? No, you make a sandwich out of that, bitch. Okay, no, because I've seen people eat it. That's how you eat it? Serial killer shit. See what I'm saying?

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That's like eating cereal with the milk on the side. With the milk on the side of the cup? Let me wash it down with the milk. No, I chased it with the bread. I do.

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39.923 - 48.136 Rory

Welcome to a new episode of the new Rory and Maul podcast.

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I am Maul. I'm Rory. And we are back. Rory, man, we are here. We're always back. Yes, we are here. For some reason, twice a week, we just keep coming back. We're here. I keep showing up outside your door, keep ringing your bell. And for some reason, you keep letting me in. Rory's such a great guy. Yeah, thank you. We are here to talk about...

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I guess some things that we've been meaning to talk about we're using today to kind of cover some topics that we had. Really important issues. Really important issues in the world. We're not talking about Trump. Don't worry about it. That's not an issue. But we were informed. You love that Nick kid, don't you? Yeah, I love him. The what kid?

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Love him. Nick, uh... Excuse me? Nick Fiazza, whatever his name is. How's that? I don't know. Oh, you guys aren't up to date. I thought you was talking about Nick Cannon. Um... To Kanye's new political advisor that thinks the Holocaust wasn't real. He's like 24. Never mind. You guys aren't up to date on political stuff.

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Is that the guy that was sitting down with him on InfoWars? Yeah, that kid. With the Yeezy Gap hoodie? That kid. Okay. Yeah, so we've been informed that gaslighting, Rory, the word that we've heard and we've probably laughed at a few times, has been named the word Of the year. And I think that's women's fault. I think it's fully women's fault. Talk about it.

Chapter 2: How is gaslighting defined and what are its signs?

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Thomas Jefferson. That's a $20 bill, right? I haven't seen a $20 bill in so long. You still touch those? Yeah. But you know Edison was probably trying to gaslight the hoes when he made electricity. Yeah.

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Gaslight the hose when he made electricity. Come over and see. Can you scroll up a little bit, Julian? I'm sorry. Ten signs of gaslighting in a relationship, Rory. So we're going to go through this and see if you've ever been a victim. Okay?

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All right.

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Number one, lying about or denying someone and refusing to admit the lie even when you show them proof. Definitely done that before. Sure. I've probably done that before. Okay. Number two, insisting that an event or behavior you witnessed never happened and that you're remembering it wrong.

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I've done that, but I was telling the truth. I wasn't gaslighting. They just misremembered what was... They were trying to gaslight me when I was saying that never happened. You're remembering wrong. You were the victim.

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I'm 50% right now. I'm one for two. Spreading rumors and gossip about you or telling you that other people are gossiping about you. That's weird.

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That's very Shakespearean.

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If you think about it.

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That's very Machiavellian.

Chapter 3: What examples of gaslighting are shared in relationships?

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There he goes. See? All right. Is it gaslighting if it's not true? What if it's true? That's not gaslighting.

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That's not gaslighting.

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I think this is within the assumption that all of these things are.

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That you're manipulating. The manipulation is the biggest thing about gaslighting.

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Because I've dated a lot of women that have really shitty friends.

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Yes.

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That I may have said, not just in our disagreements, just in life and their decision making.

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Yes.

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That you should probably stay away from them. Yes.

Chapter 4: How do personal experiences influence perceptions of gaslighting?

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I have to go to this or like I got a flight to catch. I have to get coffee with my family. Like something's happening in the morning early for me.

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I have to get coffee with my family. That was funny.

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my cousins and I in New York we do a cousins brunch like once a month yeah no I feel you yeah and it just happened to be the night before it was the first time it was that authentic brunch and then every other time and then it was good and you hit it a second time and you're like yeah we're moving it to twice a month now

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all right so tell me about this woman fucking on top of a man thing damaris okay so there was a thing that went viral on twitter where a girl was cursing her friend out on twitter because she said her the scenario was her and her best friend of years um and her man all were at her man and hers house i guess the couple lived together and their best friend came over um and they all like got drunk right they were drinking they're all friends they were drinking

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At some point, the girl got really drunk and went to her bedroom. Her friend walked her to her bedroom. She blacked out, whatever, whatever. She woke up to her best friend and her man fucking on top of her, but telling her to wake up type shit. So when she got her bearings about her, she just starts swinging on them. And they basically like, yo, you drunk.

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Basically, they were like, yo, you trying to set up the threesome. And she was like, I would have never went for some shit like that. We never did anything like that before. I feel like y'all are being sneaky.

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Yeah, they tried to wake her up mid-fuck. Two honest people. She's the gaslighter.

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Yeah. So she tweets, you got in my bed on top of my lifeless, limp, drunk body. That's a terrible way to start a tweet. By my boyfriend literally on top of me. I'm so drunk I can barely move as is. Definitely not with a bitch on top of me. The second I gathered myself, I swung on both of them. The fuck? He talking about, I thought it was a threesome. I thought this was what you wanted.

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Because why did she come get in our bed and do what she did? Nigga, what? When have I ever been on that? Be for real. She laid in the bed right after me. I had no clue she was in my bed till I rolled over. I'm in shock like, huh, Ariana, what are you doing here?

Chapter 5: What personal experiences does China Mac share about his mother?

3389.156 - 3399.216 China Mac

You know what I'm saying? But when it does present, the opportunity does present itself, you know, I don't run from it. You know what I'm saying? All right, there you go.

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3399.196 - 3422.267 China Mac

take lemons and make lemonade yeah okay this is what it is all right we're gonna use this moment propel into some some real shit right and then back to the back to regular programming i feel you and that's just fucking politics at this point yeah like that's not just the internet that's that's america that's life yeah that's that's everything how much happier are you though in your life i'm so happy man yeah yeah i'm happy as fuck y'all can see me yeah

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3423.648 - 3437.61 China Mac

I'm happy, man. I ain't going along. I'm happy. You know what I'm saying? My mom just beat cancer, so I'm super happy about that. Congrats. That's incredible. I appreciate that. You feel me? Crazy shit is that woman had cancer three times, bro.

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Chapter 6: How does China Mac describe his transition to content creation?

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Two times while I was in prison. You know what I mean? I couldn't even fucking go see her. I couldn't do shit, bro. I felt like... I felt bad. You know what I'm saying? Like, imagine that shit. And she beat it both times. And then the last time she had it, you know, I was out here with her. You feel me? And she beat it again. Like, you know what I mean? So, you know, I'm super happy.

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You know what I mean?

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Chapter 7: What insights does China Mac provide about the New York food scene?

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And just being able to just, like, you know, do shit that I love. Like, you know what I mean? Like, what I'm doing right now on my YouTube channel, I love that shit, bro. Like, I... I love it. You know why?

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3472.589 - 3486.578 China Mac

Because I get to do... I remember sitting in a cell and I'm looking at my little black and white TV and I'm just like watching all these Discovery Channel and watching fucking Anthony Bourdain and all these people. I used to watch that shit

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like religiously like oh I can't wait to get the fuck out of there get the fuck out of here and go to Alaska or go wherever and now I'm living it you feel me and there's so many people that I know that don't have that opportunity you know what I'm saying so I'm enjoying it you know what I'm saying and I'm getting paid off of it you know what I mean and I'm living and I'm happy you know and I'm just happy to be here type shit you feel me with Mac Eats which I think is dope by the way I appreciate you

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Does Matt cook, though?

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3520.014 - 3530.312 China Mac

I cook some jail shit. Yeah, yeah, I cook some jail shit. Yo, I don't mean to keep on talking about this jail shit, but I spent so many years in jail. It's part of who you are.

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You know what I'm saying?

Chapter 8: How does the discussion shift to Kanye West and his recent actions?

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Like, I don't want to be the jail guy. Yeah, I feel you. It's part of who you are. You know, but that's how I know how to cook. I learned how to cook in prison. You know what I'm saying? So I know how to make some jail shit. But... I don't really know how to cook, but I follow, I can follow instructions. Yeah. To HelloFresh it.

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Yeah. What's that? It's like a, it's like an ordering, how would you describe HelloFresh?

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It's like a meal prep type of thing.

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Yeah, you pay like monthly and they'd send you actual like food that you just gotta basically just reheat.

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3557.399 - 3566.697 China Mac

well nah you just follow instructions oh you follow you gotta cook it yeah it's actually real food and shit yeah you cook it yeah you don't really eat it so I would be great at that what's the name of them?

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Hello Fresh Hello Fresh? actually yeah I'd be great bleep out their actual name this ain't a fucking ad they gotta pay us for this yeah yeah yeah bleep

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would you ever do some form of a cookbook that would be within other locations because the way like every time i hit a city i usually call someone i know from that city to give me a list of restaurants would you see yourself since you've been traveling so much in all these different cities putting together like the mac eats location cookbook or restaurant you could be like the new zag you like the news what is it zag it

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We can't say that word. You can't say that word anymore. No, not that word. Zagat. Isn't that what they like? Whoa. This show is different. Wow. That's a great word. You know what the Zagats eat. Yeah, I wish we could bring that word back. That's such a great word. Fucking Zagat, bro. They eat in the village. Stop acting like a Zagat. But it can be like that. The vegans. Yeah.

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It'd be like China Mac has his thing at the door. Like when you walk to the restaurant, he rates the restaurant. It's like, okay, Mac Eats gives this a four. Mac Eats gives this a three. You know what I mean? You should do some shit like that. I think that'd be fly.

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