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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed human. What's Bill's choice of drink? I'm sorry. He doesn't drink. Hillary drinks. Is he a seltzer water guy?
The blood of babies, the damn demon rats.
That is true. Hillary wasn't there, though. She wasn't there this time.
Because she was sucking the blood from babies, the damn demon rats.
We're never going to have Bill on. I'm sorry. Did you guys order a pizza? No, we didn't. No.
girl ever whispered in your ear yes how'd you feel i felt seen i felt heard i felt noticed yeah um what did she say uh chicago excuse me she was in chicago yeah she wanted you to take her to chicago that was the same word yeah chicago got you okay has a woman ever whispered in your ear
Yeah, it was like warm breath. What did she say? It made me uncomfortable. What did she say? They made you squirm? It kind of made me put my shoulder up and then it just ruined the moment. Ew. Did you shatter her jaw?
You can intro the pod now if you want. Welcome to a new episode of the new Rory and Maul podcast. I am Maul. I'm Rory. And we are back for a new episode. Today we are going to discuss a few things. Rory, are you ready? I'm so ready. I have a list of things.
I'm really excited.
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Chapter 2: What happened during Julian's dinner with Bill Clinton?
They're playing a game in between.
Yeah. Some guys will be out there doing some stuff while she's performing at her show. They're performing at halftime at her show. So Rihanna's back, and there's a lot of talk about her set list. A lot of talk. Yeah.
a lot of talks yeah she released a video today i like your professionalism today you killed the patreon ad now you're saying there's a lot of chatter around the world there's a lot of rumblings out there uh but uh a video was released uh i believe on rihanna's instagram uh was the video was released she posted something on ig well it wasn't her rihanna and apple music oh well apple posted kind of like a trailer and she was talking with nadeska right that's fire shout out to nadeska
No?
Didn't she do an interview?
I didn't see that.
She had an interview as well, but she also released a trailer for the Super Bowl that shows like a little girl in Barbados running around.
Loved it.
Run this town is playing.
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Chapter 3: What predictions are made about Rihanna's Super Bowl performance?
Look what y'all trying to do. This is what the fuck y'all do. This is what Bill told me to tell you guys today. Damn demon rats. All right, I don't think Eminem comes out. He was there last year. Bryson, love you. Y'all really don't think Jay is going to perform? No. No. I'd hope so. I would like that.
Why would that be narcissistic? Because Jay's not coming out on somebody else's Super Bowl. Jay's going to do his own fucking Super Bowl. He's not going to come out as a guest at somebody else's.
Yeah, but it's Rihanna. It's, you know, it's like... I don't know. He would come out if he wasn't the one that quote unquote curated. His job is to do this.
So you look nuts. I mean, Questlove curated the Hip Hop 50 anniversary at the Grammys and he DJed. No, he played the drums because he's the best drummer in hip hop.
That's not narcissistic?
No, not at all.
Also, Questlove, everyone knows that he's not that kind of... And by the way, when you're the music director, it's okay if you play the music.
fair when you're the curator it's also okay if one of your songs are in the curated list and you perform so what if jay came out during dre's set and rapped the stuff he wrote that's not the same thing yeah not he doesn't perform that song he's on the record yeah i think that jay comes out and does umbrella with rihanna um i think i do run this town before i think he does both
I think you're asking a lot of Jay right now.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of QC's recent sale to HYBE?
Why do you say particularly otherwise?
No, I'm not saying otherwise. I just wanted to clear that up.
You don't agree though.
When I think of classic hip hop or like classic rapping ability, no, I don't really put Kanye as high up as a 10 on that list. You put Snoop in there?
No, Snoop in there. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is one of the most beautiful stories ever told. It is beautiful. as a story, top to bottom. That covers his arc from the entire Taylor Swift incident until the moment that album dropped. Did you hear storytelling on Tucker Carlson? Amazing. Amazing work. Amazing work.
Look at Julian falling for the marketing. It tells the story from top to bottom with Taylor Swift.
Look what artists have to do. They go out of their way. Like, this is this chapter in my life. This is like now that I'm the man. Everyone tries to do that. Very few times does it connect on a level where he's speaking in such a way that us, me as a listener, someone that has no idea what he just went through can deeply understand everything that just happened to him.
And it's not only is it lyrically, it doesn't sound great. He produced most of those fucking records. Like he, he lived in that music so much. And I think he was able to translate that to so many people that doesn't happen often.
I mean, with all that said, I'm not terribly mad at this list.
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Chapter 5: How does the sale affect artists' ownership of their masters?
They're going crazy with the K-pop. Like, they got money.
Okay. So they... The deal that they... Okay, so South Korean music company. I'm sorry.
Scooter Braun bought fucking QC. Well, I didn't... Of course, there were some other players involved with that. But Scooter Braun's the face of this company, HYBE. And they bought QC... It was very vague within the Billboard article of what they controlled. They said something about upfront cash and shared stocks involved in it. Somewhere around $300 million, I believe is where they... God damn.
The deal was worth $300 million in cash and stock. That's very important to note that. According to high regulatory filings, the company paid $250 million in cash... and issued a total of $50 million in stocks to Quality Control's two co-founders, CEO Kevin Coach K. Lee and COO Pierre P. Thomas.
Founded in 2013, Quality Control will fall under the Hybe America umbrella and the leadership of its CEO, Scooter Braun. Hybe America encapsulates SB Projects, as well as Big Machine Labor Group, which Hybe attained through its 2021 acquisition of Braun's Ithaca Holdings.
so yeah some people was uh upset oh qc sold out and made this and they you know people that just had to get up and go to work at eight this morning and make someone else rich so qc already had a partnership with 300 and other labels to begin with so okay so that's fair if selling or parting with someone and selling out then they had done that prior to which i don't think they have but no
QC also consists of the catalogs of the Migos, Lil Baby, the City Girls, and Lil Yachty. Yeah.
Of course, I think this deal has been in talks for over a year. And obviously, I think P and Coach K have talked about this for years and had a plan. Do we think anything with what's been going on in Atlanta or just in general in hip hop had them feeling like maybe we should sell while it's high?
Or they just... Not to say that the music still won't be valuable when you have a catalog like that, but I'm talking about the stresses. Something could be valued very high, but it's not worth the headache for what that money's going to be. And with everything that's been going on with hip-hop, hip-hop's always been targeted, but we see it at a different fucking level right now. Mm-hmm.
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Chapter 6: What insights are shared about LeBron James' scoring record?
I think the way we talk about the bad boys and the death rolls, I think QC is right there. in the exact same conversation. And I think in this era, QC is that to what we grew up on with the other labels. QC is that. They're to me the most important.
Signing with such a con, well not signing, I'm sorry, selling or partnering, however you wanna word it, with such a conglomerate like this, does that take away a lot of the importance and leverage that QC had in the hip hop space? I'm not talking about the business move because I'm not being that Monday morning quarterback.
If someone offers me $300 million for something I've been working on for 10 years and I think it's valued at that, you think I'm turning down $300 fucking million? No. But the importance, is it now devalued?
I don't think it's devalued. I think that, you know... Not enough people have information on what the deal is, what it allows QC to do. They just hear sold or bought by Hive America. And that's all they're harboring on is, oh, they sold out. They sold the company. They partnered with Scooter Braun and now it's... Scooter Braun is going to run QC.
People just don't have enough information on the logistics of the deal. I think that Coach K and P, again, they have a plan. They have goals. They have things that they want to do. And they feel like Hybe obviously puts them in a position to achieve those goals and to do more things that they want to do. They want to grow the brand. They want to elevate the brand. And they feel like this was it.
They may still have full control of everything quality control does. You know what I mean? They may have... You know, it's just like now we have a backing. We have the capital. We have the resources.
I don't think anyone's knocking the creative control, though. I think the biggest thing here is now these artists will officially be unable to get their masters back.
And I was my next question was going to be. All right. We watched the little baby doc. And we saw what type of exec P is. He sat every day with Baby. That was some real artist development. That's really what execs should do. We know P gives a fuck about his artists for real. Do we think Coach K and P had a sit down with every one of these artists and what they were doing with their catalog?
I think the...
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Chapter 7: What are the comparisons between LeBron's and Jeter's career milestones?
That's a great question if they may not be able to get their masters or own their masters.
Well, we don't. They're not all in capital, right? It's a mixed bag with QC. The same way TDE, they do different deals with different labels. But at some point, the most they could get of their masters would be what QC would own, which would be 50%. And I don't know their fucking deals, but let's talk about standard joint venture deals.
But Scooter, I mean, just coming off of just to keep going on that, Scooter is coming off of the whole back and forth with Taylor Swift. So he's it's his intentions are pretty clear in terms of wanting complete ownership over major catalogs and maybe not 100 percent of the.
That's not a Scooter thing. That's a music industry.
It is. I'm just saying he's become the face of like he's been demonized as like the guy that's like the best, especially because Taylor's entire last rollout was against anti-Scooter.
Look, I'm kind of indifferent on the whole thing, but I'm saying as someone that makes it clear that he wants as many shares as he can get, as many master percentages that he can get, I just hope for the sake of these artists that Q and P, that at some point these artists will have the option to acquire some of their shares or get something back instead of just... Because right now the money just went to them.
I don't want to be the Grinch that stole the masters, but what artist has ever really, that's such a rare occasion, no matter what, that an artist would even have the opportunity, let alone be able to afford to buy all their masters.
No, I hear you, but it's happening more and it's not, it's not common. It's not common. I'm saying Chris Brown eventually was able to get his back. Like Chris Brown owns all his masters. He would, he won a, yeah.
I find that respectfully very hard to believe. Hold on.
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