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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Everyone's there. Lauren's there. Lauren was there until like 4 in the morning. I am. Michael.
Lauren Hill. Lauren Hill. No, wait. No, no, no, no, no. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Y'all throwing some sick fucking names out here.
Y'all throwing some sick fucking... He just named our first name.
Lauren was there.
When someone says SNL and you hear the name Lauren, who the fuck thinks of Lauren Hill? You think of the Fugees, clearly.
I thought...
Right here.
Welcome to a new episode of the new Rory and Maul podcast. I am Maul. I'm Rory. And we are joined with the crew on set today. How y'all doing? How y'all feeling? I love you, Maul. Y'all don't look and smell as good as Damaris, though. I'm glad y'all are sitting like... I'm sure I smell better.
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Chapter 2: How does the crew feel about SZA's concert?
That's different.
She talks about death like it's a... She's disturbed.
That's because I'm so traumatized and disturbed that, like, I don't... I cry when I'm happy. I don't cry when I'm sad. Sad things make me laugh.
You look at death in the eyes and just laugh at it.
That should make you giggle.
You're like pretty much a Jadakiss album.
For sure.
A Jadakiss album? You know when Jadakiss asks us in Wyo, why do we cry at death and not cry at birth? I never even thought about it that way, Kiss. Like, why don't we cry? And my thing is, Kiss, he never saw a baby cry at birth. Word. Like, every baby cries when he's born. And he's never seen anyone laugh at death. Like, put me back in my womb.
I'm sorry. Damaris was definitely born like cold face, no cries. Just stone cold.
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Chapter 3: What insights does Smino share about his fashion and music?
You saw the white boy with one arm up at the show. He was tripping. Sleeveless shirt. What if I went that far? That would be nasty. Yeah, that would be nasty. I saw somebody. Which show was... Oh, we were at Division show. And it was a guy at the show that had on a... Yeah, Daniel. No.
No.
Not Daniel, but it was a guy at the show that had on like a sleeveless vest. Like a sweater vest. Remember the old sweater vests?
Yeah. Like the gap joint? Yeah. He had that on. I have a Lacoste one, I think, somewhere in my closet. Why? Because from like that era. Wait, but the vest and the one was under. No, he was just raw. Who was Puffs?
Just straight nipple?
Yeah, raw vest. Straight arms. No. No t-shirt underneath it. You were still like heavily in the streets at that time, but when Farnsworth Bentley came out, like we bought sweater vests, bro. I'm not saying I haven't worn it since then.
We had to wear a uniform in school. So I wore a sweater vest to school. But that was like in the late 90s. I thought those was over once. You weren't in the club with it. Never. I didn't know that was a thing. Don't do that because at one point we had to wear hard bottoms to get in the club. And that went well with hard bottoms.
And it's crazy because the only reason they wanted you to wear hard bottoms in the club is because they figured like... Guys wouldn't fight if they had one.
100% the dumbest thinking ever.
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Chapter 4: How do the hosts react to Chris Rock's special?
Y'all throwing some sick fucking.
He just named our first name. Lauren was there.
When someone says SNL and you hear the name Lauren, who the fuck thinks of Lauren Hill? You think of the Fugees, clearly.
the average person does not know who lauren michaels is yeah i'm like new yorkers it's like the fact that we went from all right to travis kelsey what's travis's brother's name he's also really and don't put that on new yorkers i don't remember lauren michael at greenhouse
like oh we're new yorkers we know that guy like no if you don't know snl you don't know okay so so in walks um kid super who just did his first solo show at paris fashion week and we have a lot of mutual friends so i just i just said i was like dude i said i was like man like congrats on the show and he doesn't know i am so we we like hit it off we become like that we were together for like most of the night like moving around getting drinks all that shit did you pull up your instagram to show the mutual followers that you had no no
okay oh that's my guy he does follow he follows Armani and Joyce though that was your intro yo no I didn't I didn't do we talked comedy he's a comedy guy alright whatever there was one day at the studio I walked in I told Armani like yo you fuck with Billie Eilish and the rest was history yeah
The rest was history. The rest was history.
All right, let Julia tell the story.
Please, this is why I wanted to tell it. No, go ahead, man. Let's watch a night out on 40th Street. We're just talking, talking shit. You got one more game to drop. I haven't even started.
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Chapter 5: What are the key takeaways from Chris Rock's special?
Yeah. And it just, it didn't hit the mark.
I think that he just knew that everybody, what everybody was waiting for. Of course. He knew what everybody was waiting to hear. He wanted to, obviously, you know, he, again, throughout the whole thing, he poked jokes at not wanting to have beef with more rappers. And, you know, he's making that whole joke.
So he knows what people wanted to hear and why they were there and why people were on Netflix watching.
Y'all were waiting to hear this?
And wait, here I am agreeing with you.
She said she didn't even see the special.
Hell yeah. I'm literally, that's why I said I don't, I'm not commenting on the special. My tweet was literally off of that one clip of him sitting there saying, you're a bitch, your wife's a bitch. Literally, that's what the clip said.
That also wasn't the full joke. That's why I'm saying the tweet, I understand you responded to that video, but it was like five minutes before that.
Wait, I don't remember him calling Jada a bitch. No, he called Will a bitch. He called Will a bitch. Nah, I don't think Chris Rock would call Jada a bitch. He didn't call Jada a bitch. He definitely got at Jada, but he didn't call her a bitch. He wouldn't call her a bitch. He wouldn't do that. Well, actually, I don't know.
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Chapter 6: How does Smino view his own artistry and influences?
Don't get me wrong, but I don't think it's a bad special. But it was definitely watching a peak comedian start to, you know... I don't mean... I'm not talking about waiting for his special.
I'm saying, were you waiting for Chris Rock to respond to Will Smith? Were you waiting for that?
Yeah, I was.
I wanted to hear what you had to say.
I wasn't waiting for the special. Yes, but I was more waiting for what a perfect excuse that I could finally hear from Chris Rock about the world. Because he's one of those comedians to me.
Yeah.
And I don't like... They do it with Tupac recently. We took that off the list we had. We have to stop treating goats like shit when everything they do isn't flawless. And I've been guilty of it too. I'm 100% guilty of that shit. Was this Chris Rock's best? God no. Could you kill it? Yes. Have an opinion. But to sit there and say one of the greatest comedians of all time, nobody gave a fuck.
We're not interested to hear from Chris Rock. The same way y'all say Tupac isn't the best rapper, all that other shit. These are goats. Have your opinion, but don't say that about a goat. Somebody that's solidified in this shit.
I ain't gonna lie, though. He had a funny part in there where he was talking about abortion. I was laughing at that. That was just funny to me.
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Chapter 7: What insights does Smino share about his collaboration with J. Cole?
The shit with his daughter was great. I think there was a lot of amazing bits in it that I, again, Magna Carta to me. Very low on my J discography, but he had moments during Magna Carta I was like, still the GOAT, but this ain't his best.
This is his Magna Carta to me. Like you're saying, at the first time in his career, unlike all the other specials he's had to previously put out, he was on the clock for this one. So whatever was on his plate, he had to clear. He had to do this. This was time-sensitive. He got the bag from Netflix. He agreed to it as he should.
But for the first time in his life, probably he's writing against a clock this tight and to write an hour in that time. And he and we have the episode with Mark Norman. And Mark said he was at the cellar a lot working this material like he was working this up until the day like this. And I think pushing this heavy and live, by the way.
I was going to say, I don't know why he did this live.
I agree with you. I thought, why not? I don't think he should. Louis did the same thing.
Why not? Do it.
He's a go. Now, I will say this. I think the one thing.
Way different.
I think the one thing that Chris Rock had against him in this special was the fact that this may have been the first time in his career where everybody that was watching and in the audience was like, you know what we're here to hear.
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Chapter 8: What are Smino's thoughts on the current fashion trends?
Wait, so before we do that, sit back real quick. Let's just transition to the fact that you guys are going to do Smino. Yeah, they're here. He's right here. Oh, perfect. And I think that was more than enough time. That was perfect.
All right, cool. All right, so off of that, we have a guest with us today, an artist that I think we all fuck with that's in town and he wanted to stop by and kick it with us real quick. So we're going to make room for that, make space for that. And I guess, Damaris, if you got to take your silver surfer boots and save the world. At the Garden, at the Mecca tonight. Danny Phantom.
Go ahead and do that. I do want, and I mean, we're giving it away now, but we have Smino on the pod today. I want his reaction to, I know he saw some of the Chris Rock clips. I know he had a show last night, but I want his opinion on this too. I don't want to close this topic quite yet. Oh, we'll get his opinion. And I want to get his top five St. Lunatics. More importantly.
Smino coming up next, guys.
All right, we won't try to make this formal. It cut right away. We still got Chris Rock. We have our guy, Smino, in the building now.
We can do the- Fresh off stage kicking ass last night. I'm mad I didn't catch the show with you and Jitty Jit, man. I seen the clips online. Terminal 5, that shit was packed. Yeah, saw it. Everybody jumping up and down. I was in the crib just watching Chris Rock. I'm like, what the fuck am I doing? I should have went to this fucking show, man. Yeah.
It wasn't even just live. I could have watched this Chris Rock shit later.
Yeah. But we were talking about the whole Chris Rock special and obviously coming up on the one year since the whole Oscar thing between Chris Rock and Will Smith, we all kind of were waiting for Chris Rock's response. This was his first official response and his retaliation, if you will, on the whole show. the whole event that happened last year. How do you feel about his response, the special?
Do you have Chris Rock as a GOAT in the comedy world? Has this changed anything for you as far as Chris Rock's legacy?
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