Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. How can a version know if they like dick if they've never gotten any?
That's totally different. What does a version have to do? I'm trying so hard to be on your side right now. That's totally different.
That's totally different. I'm just giving you something.
Wait, so okay, here's what if the scenario is. You break that analogy down. What if the scenario is he's in Ibiza, it's an orgy.
What?
Diplo. All of you are sick.
Diplo. I'm painting a picture. Y'all are trying anything in the world to say Diplo is gay.
No, William.
Hello, you lucky lad. Welcome to a new episode of the new Rory and Maul podcast. Wow. He's a proper lad. Are you a character in Harry Potter?
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Chapter 2: How do the hosts celebrate St. Patrick's Day?
Next Black History Month, can I do this? Next Black History Month, you'll be fired, so you don't have to worry about that. He might be fired now.
Can we skip Cinco de Mayo for Edna after that? This is all racist.
You know what, Dame? I fully understand. Once I see my culture being appropriated, I finally fucking get it. This is Lior Cohen. You are all Lior Cohen to me right now. This is fucking nuts. Take those fucking glasses off. I'm taking this off. This is stupid. This is my culture. It's way more than fucking light up shit and drinking Irish carbon. This is ridiculous.
This is the Todd Moskowitz of my culture.
I thought that that was a pretty cool answer.
Well, can you enlighten us a little on your culture?
Yeah, what is your culture, Rory? Well, when we walked in here, Julian started making what he called Irish car bombs. I thought that was racist. Never mind. You make the joke. He just started making them. He's Lebanese. I figured they make the best, most effective car bombs.
He stayed in the car when the bomb went off.
It's one word away from a news headline.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of cultural appropriation in fashion?
It's all good. But happy St. Patrick's Day to all the Irish people around the world, all of our Irish listeners.
And you all have your 23 me's. You all have Irish in you. We do. We were whores. We do. Everyone has some type of Irish.
We all have Irish in me.
For sure. Well, how's the family feeling about, I know y'all are celebrating this weekend. It's been a big week. Yeah, it's a big week. They've got a big week ahead.
No dad, dad coming into town. Not Christmas. No, no, no. Not a christening. No, no, no. Nothing like that, right? No. It's fucking St. Patrick's Day. St. Patrick's Day. Yes. Right? Just getting drunk? Yeah, a proper lot. What do you guys think St. Patrick's Day is about?
I don't know.
Like from outside looking in.
Well, as a New Yorker, it's just very loud. A lot of alcohol.
Yeah.
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Chapter 4: How do the hosts react to Nicki Minaj's comments about Ice Spice?
Yeah, I know Cardinal Hayes does it every year. Yeah, so then we did that. And that was very interesting. It'd be a lot of drunk Irish people. What were you playing?
I played clarinet.
I played clarinet. Yeah, I'm not very proud of saying that out loud. You look like you played a clarinet. Yeah.
Everything makes sense now. Everything makes sense now. Did you have the caring? You did not bring that case on the concourse.
Yeah. Oh, you got chased.
Yeah.
Oh, them niggas on 167 chased you all the way to Tremont.
I know they did. No, but we would do the parade on 5th. So that was fun. There'd be a lot of drunk Irish women trying to talk to high schoolers. So that was weird. It's on par.
Very weird. But sounds about right. It's on par for the course. Yeah. Julian was very hyped for this... This day. I don't know. He texted chat last night. He had a whole bunch of fucking... It looked like an Irish kidnapping kit. He had bottles of Guinness on the bed. Glasses, hats. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck he was doing last night.
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Chapter 5: What are the opinions on Ice Spice's impact in rap?
Ice Spice is not a threat? She's not. Not yet.
She doesn't want anything.
Cardi wasn't a threat either before. It can happen pretty quick. I'm saying it can happen quick.
Nobody is going around calling Ice Spice an MC. That is what... People call Cardi an MC, and then that was a whole thing where you don't even fucking write your raps, and they're saying you're winning Grammys for best artist, and you don't write your raps. That was a whole thing with her and Nicki. I don't think anybody looks at Ice Spice as a threat as an MC. We look at her as a pop culture.
She's a pop artist almost that raps, right? Now, award-wise, yes, she's a threat because these people can't tell the difference between pop and rap, sure. But as an actual threat, nobody's going to sit up there and say Ice Spice is the greatest rapper since Nicki. Which is why the princess label is so funny to me.
Because all of the real MCs and real hardworking women that have been out in the past couple years that really put out really dope music and who can actually rap and write. This is who you pick as your princess, of course. Because to your legacy, she's not a threat.
Well, she picked Meg and then Meg did WAP and then it was over. Yeah.
I don't think she picked Meg. She did a song with Meg.
If you go through history, though, to the fans, yes, I could see that.
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Chapter 6: How does the conversation shift to Diplo's podcast revelations?
She's now chosen, though.
She's a threat.
She is 100% a threat. If we saw what happened with Cardi when the industry chose Cardi, Ice Spice is a threat to everyone. She's been chosen. She's been chosen.
All right, all right. I'll listen to all of y'all. Let me just say this.
No, no, no.
none of these female rappers are a threat to Nicki no but it's not about you can put the whole industry behind them the industry can push all the buttons give everybody all the commercials all of that shit you want to give them and none of these female rappers can stand next to Nicki they can't rap better than her they can't write better than her they don't when they step out they don't set the trends that Nicki sets aesthetically Nicki is just the one that every female rapper is chasing whether they want to say it or not
She is the bar. That's just what it is. Now you can put the label behind an artist and push them and propel their career 100 percent. We've seen it done. But we also know that that's what happened. Yeah. Like, oh, the industry pushed the button on this artist. Don't disagree at all. So that's what I'm saying. Like, I get it.
Like, they're going to find the next new, hot, pretty, you know, most clickable female rapper and say, OK, this is the one we're getting behind. Ice Spice is ready to get features from all of, you know, the big artists and things like that. She's ready to go all just which I'm happy for. Shout out to the Bronx. I'm happy for. But with all that aside, we still know who the top is.
And I'm saying based on optics. Barb's relaxed. Based off optics, Nikki does not behave off the truth. The truth is everything you just said. Nikki is number one And will be number one for, I think, in my lifetime. I don't know if I could see that happening again. The way she set literally a whole new genre of hip hop.
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Chapter 7: What are the implications of Jussie Smollett's actions?
That doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. You know what I'm saying?
I want to make it clear. When men do it too, I think it's corny as well. It's not a woman thing. When men do this too, that are legends, and I think it's corny.
When men do it, it's another word we can't say. What's the word? Have neighbors.
Also, Bodak Yellow was a much bigger record than Munch. To your argument, I agree with Rory. I think her emotions get the best of her, and she feels the urge to respond, even though everything you said is everything true. But optics-wise, in terms of radio and outside reception, Munch isn't nearly as big as Bodak Yellow.
Bodak Yellow was a changer.
Bodak Yellow was the year in Atlantic. That kept the lights on for a year.
We're speaking from a different age right now. To these younger kids, Munch is there. Kodak Yellow is a much bigger record. You're talking from analytics. Well, that's because the Kodak record was big.
Y'all do know that at this point, her other song is bigger than Munch, right? Which one? That boy's a liar. That's what I'm saying. That pop teenage shit is actually bigger than Munch, if I'm not mistaken, at this point.
Who's Eden's girl? Oh, I love her too. Pink Pantherous. Pink Pantherous. It was dope. I love her. She's great. You met her by accident in London. In London. She was getting her hair done where we recorded.
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Chapter 8: What lessons can be learned from the discussion about celebrity behaviors?
Yeah, I was about to say, who's Doce? Doce. Come on, you guys gave me Irish car bombs. Doce, I think, is going to be Really? Probably one of those, yeah.
Dolce and Doja kind of give me the same vibe of like, they're rappers, but they're artists all around, right? So more on a, when you think of them, you think of them more as an artist than as just like an MC. When I think of Nicki, I think of an MC. Are you seeing, kind of seeing what I'm saying? Yeah, for sure.
So I don't, if you're going like on Nicki's career trajectory, we would have thought at one point, we would have thought it would have been Cardi, right? We're not talking talent wise, it's more career wise.
Yeah.
We would have thought it would have been Cardi. There was a point where we, Thought it was going to be Meg, but circumstances have happened in her life. Her life is all upside down right now. So I actually don't know who.
Nikki allows that to even exist with the Doja Pop girl shit. Because if you look before Nikki, the women had to be hardcore. Lil' Kim and Foxy could rap. I don't care who you think wrote it or whatever, but they... That was hardcore rap shit. They delivered it. Even though they crossed over, they had to be hardcore shit. Nicki was that and then made women rapping also pop. Yeah.
So you don't get Boyz L.A. without Nicki doing starships. Like, or pills and potion and all that shit. Like, Nicki made it cool for women to actually be softer in hip hop. Yes. And pop more.
I mean, I can't say Princess because I think Princess, you have to be, like, a lot younger. But I think Lady London is somebody that is about to really, really step into the female rap ring and really, like, fuck shit up.
To Rory's point about the digital marketing scheme here,
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