Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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So I went and I brought a couple friends, guys that I, you know, jazz guys.
So it was a guys night. It was cool. It was three of us. You have like a group of friends that's just the jazz guys? Well, they're... Like I have the friends that would be like, all right, I know they're Yankees fans. I have my Yankees fans crew that I know I'll take to the game. Who are the jazz guys? I would love to be here. Sammy Davis and the fucking... Who would you win? The Rat Pack?
Louis Armstrong?
Not the Rat Pack. Who would you win?
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Chapter 2: How does Julian's jazz night experience unfold?
Yeah. Everything comes back full circle. You know that. Just pitch it a little bit and have Coil of Ray do it and you're good to go. I'm going to resell Laffy Taffy. Repackage. They came out. They did an interview with Michael Jordan. They asked him what was his favorite sneaker. His line of Jordans. What was his favorite sneaker of all time? And it was the one that I said, the Concord 11s.
Greatest sneaker ever. I just thought I'd put that out there. Like Mike, that's his favorite sneaker ever. Jordan's not really the fashion icon that I look to. Jordan? No, no, no. What's his favorite denim? I'm just talking about sneakers. Nasty denims. Mikey having one of the nastiest. He be having one of the nastiest of denim. But no, he stamped it.
The Concord 11, his personal favorite sneaker of all time. That's the greatest basketball sneaker ever. And that's also why he's the best player of all time. Why? Because they're Concord 11? Just because. I mean, we don't got to get to that. They know what it is. In terms of loving white women, Michael Jordan or Julian? Never mind, forget it. Yeah, okay. I think Michael Jordan's wife is Latin.
Hey. Well, I'm talking about the women he really loves.
Chapter 3: What are the implications of recent mass shootings?
Yeah. Don't do that. See, because now you're about to go on a show. Don't do that. So about Larsa's sis or like his new wife? Larsa's sis. That's great. So yeah, we're back with a new episode to talk to the culture.
Lars' in-law.
No. Yeah. Never mind. Forget it. So what's going on? We haven't seen each other in a couple of days. I saw Julian, you were out at the Blue Note. Trying to be eclectic. Yeah. Julian, we got to... Yo, like your bag away from work is like really interesting. Like you at the Blue Note. Like what are you doing? How is that? All of you should have gone. I mean, let's just talk about Julian.
Can we talk about Julian for a second? You go to all of these dive bars in Manhattan. Yeah. And then you go to like Ludlow House. Yeah. And then you're at the Blue Note. And then you can also go to the Lil Baby Show. Yeah. Get you someone who can do both. And then you drop the picture in the group text with a whole charcuterie board like set up. Oh, I missed that one.
Oh, no.
Him and Benner were like, oh, my God. Like, no, you should have tried the Natty. The Natty is such an amazing bottle to go with the cheese. Wait, like natural ice beer? All that Natty ice? I'm like, yo, what are y'all talking about? 24 hours? How was the, first of all, shout out to Terrace Martin and Aaron Ray. They were at the Blue Note. Their last show, Aaron's last show there is tonight.
Wait, you had cheese and wine with Benner at the Terrace Martin show? No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. That was at home. That was at home. That was just a Tuesday. Oh, okay. That's a Tuesday. Nice. All right. I see what you was trying to do. Okay, prosciutto, pretzel crisp bites. You invited a chick back. I was like, oh, I didn't realize I left all this out.
The pistachios and the lightly salted blue diamond almonds. You don't never, see, this is the thing, bro. You don't never have the pistachios and the almonds. Julian is a man of the people. He has pistachio almonds. He has the candied pecans. Don't discriminate. He has the strawberries. He has four different cheeses up there.
Of course.
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Chapter 4: What are the thoughts on DJ Drama's album release?
It triggers your anxiety.
You don't want to put your kids in school. You don't want to socialize in public settings. We talked about this before. The shooting in Vegas, in particular for me, that definitely changed the way I feel about going to festivals and shit like that. For sure. I was just like, wait, a dude was in a hotel just shooting down at people at a festival?
How could you comfortably go to another event like that and that not be on your mind?
I went to Dane Vegas and they, that hotel obviously is still there. It's one of the flagship hotels and they grounds that, that festival was on, they no longer use. But when I was driving the Uber drivers, like you see that window up there and it's like all blacked out. And like, it's,
it's like no one uses this room he's like that's where it happened and he didn't even need to say what it was and i just looked down from where it was to the grounds where we were which used to be the festival grounds and i was like can you just imagine it was just like it was open it was like a video game it's just like you're just shooting at a gun range that's what i'm saying you know that affects you it can't there's no way for you to go to these events and walk outside and go to these places without thinking about that type of stuff which is why i try not to really think about it
without coming across as desensitized because I don't want to seem like I'm desensitized to it like, oh, just another mass shooting, just some more kids that were killed because that's definitely the wrong approach. But... with Damaris saying, I agree. It's like, you don't, I don't want to jump too much into it because it does affect your day to day. It does affect how you move through life.
It does affect if, you know, I want to put my kids in school or have them homeschooled or, you know what I mean? It's just, it's like, where are we, where are we, where are we going as a, as a country where it's like, you're deciding, Oh, should I send my kid to school? Because I'm scared they may get killed at school. Do I homeschool them? Do I go to this event?
Do I take my kids to public events?
Bro, they're making bulletproof backpacks for children.
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Chapter 5: What are the challenges of taking charges in basketball?
Shout out to Snacks. I understand that now that I'm older, oh, you was about to faint. Your blood sugar level was low. I get it now. Well, shout out to everyone in Cooper Houses. Every time I go to Brooklyn Steel, I look at you guys across the street and I have shivers come down my body. Rory, he said good screens in basketball. Rory looked like he plays hella fundamental. No.
He knows the ins and outs.
Chapter 6: How does the conversation shift to basketball anecdotes?
He does stuff that doesn't show up on the stat sheet. Roy was one of those guys that said, energy. You got to have energy. It finds the ball.
Roy calls the team timeout. Yeah.
I knew how to take a charge early. Taking a charge and pick up basketball is definitely one of the most insane. On concrete. Every dude that ever did that, I just want to know where they're at in life. They're either locked up or just coming home from a bit. To take a charge in the park on concrete? It is kind of nuts. What are you thinking? Can you close your eyes during a charge? Oh, of course.
That's how you do it. Cover your chest? No, you gotta cover your nuts. Yo. Yo. I never took a charge on concrete, but I probably took a charge on the hardwood. I probably did. I'm never taking a charge. I was a...
i'm i'm never i've never taken a charge of basketball never are you kidding me we'll get that shit if he scored we getting it right back i'm not taking no charge i was so small it was a blocking foul but because i was so small they had a charge yeah i remember they had me ref one time at camp they had me ref like a game never again yeah oh i got cursed out so they're like what the fuck are you looking at
Like, yo, I'm not a ref, fam. I'm actually enjoying the game. I forgot I had to whistle. I'm like, my bad. I didn't call a foul. My fault. For the longtime listeners, we do want to know, at any point, did you plant your feet with Ray Rice? Man, Ray Rice dogged my ass, man. He did. That motherfucker's strong, man.
You know when somebody's strong when they run past you and bump you a little bit and just knock you all off your shit? You still move? Yo, I'm not guarding this, dude. Listen, once I got to Basketball City, I had to change my game because I thought I was good at basketball until you meet people that are good at basketball.
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Chapter 7: What are the arguments about Lil Wayne's artistry?
So I was never the guy that was like always played defense or took charges. But once I got to that level of basketball, my only strategy was play defense until he gets annoyed. You know the annoying kid. Why are you doing a full court press right now? He was one of those guys. Annoying as fuck.
Annoying as fuck.
So it was a psychological thing. I saw a clip of... Penetrating dish every time. Matt Barnes and Isaiah Thomas was talking about how Larry Bird used to talk shit. And he said Larry Bird was offended whenever he would step on the court and it would be like a white guy guarding him. Like he only wanted, like he felt like it's a level of respect when you have a black guy guarding you. Okay.
Like, don't put no white boy on me because I'm going to smoke. That sounds like liberal white guilt to me. No, that sounds like just a white boy that had a whole lot of game and was like, listen, don't put no white boy on me because I'm smoking their ass. I keep telling people Larry Bird is one of those basketball players that people forget about because he wasn't athletic.
Well, because we're not as old as you. Well, no. Just looking at just highlights. He wasn't like an athletically... He didn't have a bunch of muscles. He wasn't super quick. He didn't jump high. But I tell people all the time, do your due diligence on Larry Bird. Look at his games. Look at his highlights. Look at his averages.
Larry Bird is easily one of the greatest basketball players that I think gets overlooked because of how he looked. He's a shit talker, too. Oh, my God. We never talk about the reverse of the stereotypical joke when it's like the one black guy in the pickup game and you pick him and he's not good at basketball. We've seen that sketch a million times.
We never talk about when you're the one white guy and everyone assumes, all right, if he's white, he got to be nice if he's here. He's a shooter. He's a shooter.
Larry Bird did that for them.
I'm saying, guess who wasn't a shooter? Rory. And Rory is such a name where if you were a shooter, that would sound like a crazy nickname. I had handle, and that's pretty much as far as it went. Yeah? You could dribble? Yeah, and I could pass. I knew my strengths once I got to basketball city. In my neighborhood, I could shoot, but I wasn't contested that much. I got you. Okay.
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Chapter 8: How does the discussion about mixtapes impact artist status?
For sure. Or any sport. And I was a fucking dirty asshole defender. I'm pulling on your shirt when the ref can't see you the entire time. I'm going to annoy the fuck out of you. That would be right. 100%. We should get into a league this fall, winter. A podcast league?
Not a podcast league. A podcast basketball league skit would be...
Fucking... I would want to do it for real, though. I'm taking our five. I'm good. So, I'll... Man, we'll play any fucking podcast. I'm trying to think. I know Gilly could ball. Yeah, Gilly could hoop. But outside of that, I don't know. I'd like... we don't even need to cover Elliot. Like just leave him. Let's do boxing one on Gilly. Just leave Elliot open. I don't care. Leave Elliot open.
If he knocks one down, so we'll live with it. Yeah. Banking the three. Yeah, we'll live with it. I mean, I know Nori's been running on Instagram, but you know, he still smokes cigarettes.
I'm not worried about it. But I think like if we were to make that a skit where it literally show everybody personality, like Nori got tired and like pulled out like a fifth out like his pocket. It was like, I'm gonna catch up. Like I think that that would be so fucking funny.
I'm with it.
Have like Wheezy cheerleader. You have Wheezy and me on the other side.
Wheezy will be playing. Let her hoop. You don't think Wheezy, I think Wheezy got some handle. I think Wheezy could play. I think she could play basketball. I think she, I think she, didn't she play basketball? I have never had that conversation with her. I think Weezy told me she played basketball in high school, if I'm not mistaken. This isn't a slight too horrible decision.
I just listened to the content. The amount of basketball interactions they've had, I'd imagine they picked up on something. Well, Mandy. I will tell you this. They will be dressed in the best practice shorts of anyone. Yes, absolutely. Oh, man. Can't wait to see what they're wearing. What do we think, Ed? I mean, if we do five on five, I think... We should take Yomi instead of Ed and Ryan.
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