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Chapter 1: What themes are introduced in the Summer Jam lineup discussion?
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Also, we were reading like Harry Potter books and shit. There was all types of horrible stuff in those fucking books.
Do you remember what they called Jim? I've thus forgot what they call Jim. No, I didn't read that shit. Oh, okay. Huckleberry called him N-word Jim. Nigga Jim? Yeah. Rory saw that word and was like, I will not read this. Rory put it down, chapter one. It's like a Mad Lib. You get to fill in the blank. It's like blank Jim. Rory's like, nope, not me.
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Chapter 2: How does the conversation shift to the representation of female rappers?
My good old pal Jim.
My good old pal Jim. No, Rory, I'm not. Every step that I take is another mistake to you.
Caught in the undertow, just caught in the undertow. I've become so numb. I can't feel. Oh, sorry. Welcome to a new episode of New Rory and Maul. I am Maul. I'm Rory. I'm sorry about yelling in your ear, people. That was just my way of getting the roid rage out.
Where does that rank on rock songs that black people like? Oh, that's top. That's top five. That's top ten. That's top five. Probably top ten. Does Jay-Z doing the collab have a lot of weight in that or is that just purely that record? No Jay stamp? I think it does. I think the Jay stamp helped. Yeah. But I think that was going, that was crossing over regardless.
Yeah. It's a great record.
Jay only did it because he liked that record. Yeah. Can we? He liked that record. Let's put a Patreon topic to go to top 10 rock records that black people like. That could be a Patreon conversation. I like that. Yeah. Anyways, let's start the episode. How you feeling, man? I'm cool. You look good. You think so? Got some sleep?
I did actually get a little bit of sleep. I got a haircut, too. Oh, that's... I'm sorry. I didn't notice.
Do guys get offended when your friends don't notice that you got a haircut? No. I just... My hair was longer than it had ever been in quite some time. So I'm a little offended you didn't notice that. I'm sorry about that. But a regular haircut, I wouldn't expect you. Okay. The grays were popping out the side like you would not fucking believe. Really? They coming in?
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of the Summer Jam venue change?
Coming in. No, they're here.
Are you embracing it, though?
Yeah. I feel like as men, we don't embrace our gray. I don't mind the grays in the beard. They're sprinkled in there a little bit. Sprinkled. When the sides were like that, oh, yeah. What was the feeling at? It's time to get the fade back. Got to taper the sides.
I don't know, man. I think the gray is kind of like, it's like a stamp. I just like to let people know this. I'm seasoned. I've been here for a while. A little salt and ginger.
Yeah, I've been here for a while. Well, let's make it a race thing. Love it. White people don't do well with kind of gray. We either have to go full Silver Fox mode or not have grays at all. That in-between gray area just looks like you're going through some things. Yeah, it looks like you're stressed out. Now, I feel like black people, when they get just a little...
salt and pepper in the beard, it looks great. They can transition well with that.
I got a few grays in the beard and the hair.
I'm not mad at it. I embrace it. I can't believe I grayed before Maul.
I was going to say, Maul, you have no... I had a few. I noticed a little.
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Chapter 4: How do societal trends influence hip-hop music today?
It's not weird to y'all that COVID only came, like existed after we got rid of the pay phones in New York City. Like when we had pay phones, there was no COVID. What's the correlation? Yeah, what's the correlation? Pay phones are the nastiest things ever. Like random people just using the same phone. Yeah. Putting it on their face. We all use the same toilet. Yeah.
Who uses the same... Public restrooms. You sit down... No, what the fuck? We still use it. A urinal? Yeah. And you shit on flights? That's not the same as... I definitely shit on flights. Shitting on flights is wild? Yes. How many times do you want me to answer this? They're like, we're boarding now. Ed is like, I'll hold it. Yeah. You know why? Because Ed is the guy that if he has like an 8 a.m.
flight, he goes to Shake Shack. Oh, hell no.
What is with that... And that's a specific to JFK thing for our international listeners. They have Shake Shack at JFK at 6 a.m. The line is around the corner. I don't understand. And it's like they're not getting like a breakfast sandwich. They're getting a double burger with shake sauce and a milkshake. That's why America's obese. Yeah. Drop a heater on the way to Miami. Yuck.
The nastiest thing I ever saw was I'd got off a flight at JFK and the person in front of me, you know how like sometimes you just end up following people that go off your flight because you're going to the same place. veered off and went in the Shake Shack line to the airport he landed at. That's so weird. That's gross. Come on, man. And we were coming from Atlanta.
It's not like he was on a 12-hour flight.
It's not a long flight. I never understood how people, the first thing they do when they're taking a flight in the morning is get a burger. That's weird. A burger? Why not just some fruit? Like juice, a smoothie, something like a burger. It is what it is. That's why we all have heart disease and clogged arteries and shit like that.
And I think once or twice in my life, I probably had to do it. On a plane? On an LA flight? Probably.
Come on, y'all.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of Chief Keef's impact on hip hop?
No, I'm not saying it's rap's problem. I'm just saying the way the industry is designed, the way it's set up. Like what Chief Keef and them was doing was literally just being what hip hop has always done is being a mouthpiece for the community and what's going on and letting the world know like, yo, this is what we deal with. This is what we go through. We're trying to get away from this.
We're trying to get an escape. We're trying to create a way out. But then once they started paying... you know, when Chief Keef Bloop became the icon that he is, what does that do? It births a bunch of other Chief Keefs. You understand what I'm saying? So now they're seeing like, because he made it out doing that, we're from the same area.
Okay, let's talk about what we still going through and let's try to get out of that. But what I'm saying is, keep in mind, it came from trying to ban somebody, a group, one of the most iconic groups ever from saying, fuck the police.
Mm-hmm.
To now, okay, all of these black men could have automatic weapons in their videos and do 900 million views on YouTube and we're going to pay them every month for doing this and we're going to push it on the algorithms and let them keep doing that even though the crime rate is what it is in Chicago and... We're going to put these gentlemen in prison. He has active warrants.
Let's go lock them up because we've seen them in the video with a gun in his hand. It's like, wait, hold on.
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Chapter 6: How does the music industry reflect societal issues?
But y'all paying them to do this.
And now music isn't... Sorry to cut you off, Julia. And now music isn't just reflecting what's going on. What's going on is reflecting the music. They're copying the music. So now it's just not, oh, I'm rapping about what's going on. Now I'm trying to do what's... what people are rapping about now because these, because hip hop is so influential and these are the leaders now.
So now I'm, even if I'm from the fucking suburbs, I'm trying to be a gangster. That's how fucking six nines get bored.
Well, that's why Chris Rock is a legend with CB4. with the movie. That was the NWA playoff NWA. And it was like, this is what the music is going to do. It's going to influence people that are not going through this, not from this culture at all. And they're going to try to imitate and mimic this because they're so in love with what is going on in our culture.
But in fact, you didn't grow up in poverty, sir. You could have went to school. You could have got a degree. You didn't have to go this route. But it's hard to tell a kid Yo, go sit in class. Go do that. When his homeboy from the hood is doing 18 million views on YouTube and just bought his mother a house and he has four cars. And it's like, go to school. Turn the beat on, fam.
That's what we about to do. Like, I'm not going to. You understand what I'm saying? But it's like, what do we do? How are we programming? Let's go create some ops. Yeah. Creating an op is fucking insane. Nobody dislikes you, sir. You're creating this energy that is not real. But because you're being monetized for it, it's hard to tell these kids, don't do it.
but then when you say okay now you sir go on that stage and entertain but he's not an entertainer get to dancing get to dancing he's not that stop dancing for these white people it's not there because he didn't even want to really be an artist he just imitated something he saw caught a lick song went viral and now tomorrow you have to entertain 30,000 people on stage
And then what we do, record him, get mad because he doesn't have rhythm or she doesn't have rhythm. She's awkward. You know what I mean? Can't dance, can't do nothing. It's like, yo, what is this? And now you're killing it. But it's like the industry pushed that.
And I feel like with these kids, though, their form of entertainment is that 15 seconds and just a TikTok fine. Oh, yeah.
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Chapter 7: What are the double standards in perceptions of bisexuality?
So to them, that's entertainment. We look at it because we've seen performances like, all right, this is awful. But to these younger kids, their form of entertainment is the phone. So they get to see what's on their phone in front of them. It's nothing. It's wrapping over a two-track.
If you go on Twitter or TikTok or any social media platform where people are just live posting from a festival, it's crazy. You'll see the same 15-second clip of Ice Spice doing the section of the song that they know. You'll see thousands of videos of people in the crowd posting, filming the same second. So when you experience it, like if say we were in a Dreamville, we're just watching from afar,
if we go online, we would see the same clip just flood our newsfeed because everyone just wants that one moment of that 15 seconds of their artist doing the one thing that they know.
Yeah.
And give iSpice a little bit of credit, though.
I feel like she's... I give all the credit. That dance move is crazy.
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Chapter 8: How does the conversation conclude about women's rights and visibility?
I love it. Well, no, I just think she's become a better performer quickly. Oh, yeah. No, absolutely. No, she's going to figure it out. Like, if you don't remember, and I'm not comparing them by any means because iSpice still has a lot more to prove. When Cardi first came out, she could not perform at all. Cardi's an incredible performer now.
Mm-hmm.
I think she's a really, really good performer. You can understand every word. And Cardi B rapping, she puts together, of course, she's a creative director, puts together a real show at this point. Yeah, no, she got a lot better. So give I Spy some time. She'll get all the Spongebob characters on stage with the big shit. That'd be sick. That'd be nice. The way Katy Perry did the shark thing.
she'll have a whole bikini bottom she'll come out of the pineapple eventually just give her some time but that comes with artist development because they aren't doing artist development anymore these days and I think that we've spoken about that like you need to go and fucking rehearse and you need to practice your fucking breath control and we need to make sure that you know I'm saying like we have to put make you an artist especially if you're going to be doing all these festival stages but they don't care about that anymore because it's go up there twerk and walk away
You know it would be fire if I-Spice came out of the pineapple and then Kai came from under the rock and he was Patrick. I kind of love that. Wow. Who would be Squidward? It's a good question. Who would be Squidward? Who's an I-Spice hater? Damaris.
Her and Mulatto aren't really getting along these days.
Ice Spice and Lotto are beefing? It's not beef. And don't call Lotto Squidward.
There's been some shit. There's been some little tit for tat. Between Ice Spice? Yeah. Really? I'm going to explain it to you off mic. I don't like to instigate. I'm so low. I never know what beefs are anymore.
Because women usually support each other so much.
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