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New Rory & MAL

Episode 161 | The End Of Frank Ocean?

21 Apr 2023

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Hey, it's Nora Jones, and my podcast, Playing Along, is back with more of my favorite musicians. Check out my newest episode with Josh Groban. You related to the Phantom at that point.

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Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that.

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That's so funny. Share each day with me Each night, each morning Listen to Nora Jones is playing along on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's Financial Literacy Month, and the podcast Eating While Broke is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future.

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This month, hear from top streamer Zoe Spencer and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum-Pierre as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up. There's an economic component to communities thriving. If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they fail.

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Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. For more games with names, visit the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so if the dad's not active and it's solely on the mom, you don't want to bear the responsibility of playing the dad. Nah.

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Let's say the kid is 14 years old, no active father, but is averaging all American numbers on his AAU team. Come here, son. I knew how easy it was. Come here, sir. Let's work on your left. Yeah, come on, man. We got to get that. Let's get some layup lines going. I was looking at you last game. They're forcing you left. You got to be ready for that. Yeah, come here. No worry at all.

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Don't waste your time on me. You're already the voice inside my head. Don't waste your time on me.

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You're already the voice inside my head.

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Welcome to a new episode of the new Rory and Maul podcast. I am Maul. I'm Rory. And we're back. How you feeling, man? I feel great. You look great. I feel revived. Is that hip-hop? That wasn't hip-hop. My shirt's hip-hop. That is. Great shirt. Classic.

Chapter 2: How does the discussion about holidays reflect gender dynamics?

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Yeah, stronger ladies. They have big shoulders? Don't get it. It's some pretty stoner girls, though. Of course. I just don't know if they're going to go to Terminal 5 for the smoke.

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for Za Olympics it was some of them it was some of them there for the Za Olympics it wasn't like it didn't look like it didn't look like Freaknik it wasn't that but you know it was it was a few of them in the building well look at the range of Terminal 5 you went to Smokefest yesterday and the Za Olympics the Za Olympics exactly It's the Olympics. And no one bombed it. Great. Amazing.

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Damaris is going to go see Chloe Bailey at Terminal 5. Yeah. Totally different demographic. You think? Just a different demo. A different energy in the building tonight for Chloe. They sprayed some Lysol. Got all the smell out. Yeah, they aired it out. I'm sure it's going to smell beautiful in there tonight for the beautiful Chloe.

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They cannot get all that weed out of the fucking couches and stuff in the green room. I think Chloe smoked some, right?

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Did I see her? Wasn't she smoking a swarm? Did she like puff a little bit? If she did, it was probably for a marketing plan to make her more relatable.

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Like, ooh, she's so down to earth.

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When she was getting bent over, there was like a joint or something. She was holding it, yeah. That's dope. That's the stoner shit. If you call that a story chick, whatever. Damaris, who are you going to the Khloe show with? Just yourself?

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Myself. I asked every single one of you and you all told me no. You didn't. I am going with myself.

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You didn't ask me to go to the show. You didn't ask everybody. You didn't ask me. Stop. Or yell me.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of Frank Ocean's recent performance decisions?

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First of all, I didn't say he was trolling Nicki Minaj. I'm saying he's trolling. But he's put that's we call that the Nicki Minaj peekaboo back when Nicki used to put the pink in the back of her hair. It's not connected. That's just the hairstyle.

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But you don't think that this person is trolling?

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Maybe they're trolling Lil Nas X. Because he's a Barb and also a Lil, and also, no, he's not a they. He's just a he that fucks he's. Yeah, Lil Nas X, he is. Got it.

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My brain hurt. Look at him.

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No, I'm just trying to, I just don't, maybe this is the part of the new industry music artist shit that I don't understand. Or he just literally put that as a caption and put no thought into it at all and everyone's overthinking it. But the rolly face matches the hair and the nails, so... Safari could never do that. That's hard. I mean... They killed that. They killed that. I don't know, man.

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I don't know. No, because I'm just... This is an older gentleman trying to be progressive. Which is okay. I don't know, man. What is this? He's trying. But what is this, though? I don't... Like, what is this? They just rebranded. I mean, so this is trolling. He's just wearing the most crazy shit and doing the most... It's not that crazy.

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Crazy shit so that people can just... They just painted their nails and put pink on.

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So that we who have a platform can go and talk about it.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of Jonathan Majors' allegations?

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It's fucked up because, again, we're not the judge and the jury here. We're not saying that Jonathan Majors did any of these things that he's being accused of doing. But when it starts to come out and more abuses step forward, even if you're found innocent on all of these allegations and what may become charges, you're going to forever have this stain on your rep. It's a stain. Yep. It's a stain.

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Forever. And that's the fucked up part about it. And especially when you were going on to be the new darling of Hollywood. It wasn't like you were already on some Robert Downey Jr. shit. And then we're like, oh, we're happy you're not really a piece of shit anymore.

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Chapter 5: How do PR strategies impact public perception?

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Here's a movie. He was on his way to being the clean. It was the clean cut. He had no bullshit that came with him. No baggage. He was Chris during the double gum era. Right. Just ladies loved him. Men wanted his workout routines. You know, that type of thing. And... You wanted Breezy's workout routine? No, not me. I'm just saying. Just some of the fellas? Yeah, some of the boys.

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And here we are with more allegations coming out. And, you know, it's just... It's sad, man, because, again, Jonathan, he did look like he was, you know, on his way to some really, really big things. I know Marvel, he has a, I don't know if that's still on the table or not. I think that's gone, too. But I can only assume that. I mean, he played it and they could step on it.

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Well, he needs to fire his pub team before they let him go. Like, that text message angle you guys tried to do looked terrible. Even if it's true. Publicity is just perception.

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2894.342 - 2894.883 Damaris

Which is weird.

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Yeah. It didn't look real.

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Yeah.

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It actually made him look more guilty. And I'm sure that affected, because again, these companies only care about perception. They don't really care about the truth. They keep working with him had he actually done this stuff and no one found out. But once you just put the perception out, yeah, they got to drop him. So that text message made him look nuts.

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These things go to trial and he's found innocent on all these accusations and allegations, whatever. It's still a bad stain for him. It still looks some type of way. And it's just unfortunate, man, because again, this was somebody that we looked at and was like, okay, this is the next up. He's the next guy in Hollywood. That's just what it started to look like.

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And unfortunately, all of these allegations are coming forward and his reputation and his image is... It won't be the same after this.

Chapter 6: What conspiracy theories surround the Ralph Yarl shooting?

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Let's make him look like this gentle giant kind of thing. I don't know because didn't it come out like the next morning after that, whatever happened with his current girlfriend in their home? The photo shoot you're saying or the what? The photo shoot happened before that. I'm saying we found out about the incident with his girlfriend, I think the next day.

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So unless the PR team knew about all the other shit and then everything just snowballed after... Yeah, that's what he's saying, like, because there's other people coming forward saying that this has happened before.

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3003.437 - 3015.154 Damaris

I saw some stuff like that on the Internet where a couple of people was like, I tried to tell you about him, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So it's a chance that he's been a violent person and they knew that his PR team knew that going in.

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Yeah, I tried it like like he just said, tried to pay him as a gentle giant. And then that situation happened.

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Like abuse tends to repeat itself. Try to get ahead of it.

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Yeah.

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If that was a strategy, that's some sick shit. Yo, we know some allegations of hitting women are come out. You should go hug Michael B. Shirtless. I'm sure that's common. He didn't hug Michael B. Shirtless. I don't know why you're mixing those two.

Chapter 7: What are the discussions around the death penalty for sexual abusers?

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It wasn't shirtless. He was not shirtless. They just hugged. They were embracing.

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He was shirtless with pink and roses. Maul said that wasn't hip hop.

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That's definitely hip hop.

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It gives manipulation. A lot of it gives manipulation.

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I think cheek to cheek.

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and you can tell that you can tell that there's a lot of even before the more victims coming forward you can tell that there was so much validity to this because nobody has backed him up like nobody has baked him up like there is outside of his creed start like his creed um co-stars nobody was ever like championing him like they did michael like they i didn't even i didn't even see michael b jordan release a statement no ain't nobody speaking about part of it i mean he should have

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he shouldn't say anything but again that's also a sign not saying something is saying something and I hope people aren't demanding Michael B. Jordan to have to say something about something he knew nothing about that's not his business now I have to say something I'm not saying that he has to but it's kind of like if I'm friends with somebody and I know them like Through and through.

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Like, I know who this guy is. He's my best friend. Not saying that him and Michael be joining the best friends because they did a movie together. No. But the movie is one of the bigger movies of the year so far. One of the biggest releases. They went on this whole campaign together to promote the movie. And then not far after the movie is out, something like this happens. It's just very...

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very odd that michael b joined we don't we haven't heard anything not even a post on social media not no you know well wishes well michael b has really good pr and i know his pr is sitting there no michael no michael b is just a real nigga like i ain't i don't know i shot one homie i did a movie with homie and that's the extent of where i know him he has really good prs prs person yeah like i'm not i'm not but but but again

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