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Episode 210 | Did Logan Paul VS. Dillon Danis Ruin Boxing?

17 Oct 2023

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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This is an iHeart Podcast.

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Guaranteed human.

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On paper, the three hosts of the Nick Dick and Paul show are geniuses. We can explain how AI works, data centers, but there are certain things that we don't necessarily understand.

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Better version of play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Yes.

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Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift who said that for the first time. I actually, I thought it was. I got that wrong.

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But hey, no one's perfect. We're pretty close, though. Listen to the Nick Dick and Paul show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How much you weigh, Wanda? Right now, I'm about 130. I'm at 183. We should race.

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Chapter 2: What happened during the Toronto show?

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No, I was moving like I'm moving. Like Poppy was home. I was moving like I move at every show when I'm saying hello and taking pictures. No, I just mean through the city itself. I wasn't moving through the city. You didn't look over your shoulder once. I was shaking hands and kissing babies. I was moving how I move in every city. Okay. I felt otherwise. I felt comfortable that I was with you.

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Well, we had a good time. Shout out to, what was my man's name? Simi? Simi. Simi and his now fiance. She looked like a Sarah. I don't know if that's her name. No, I think her name was Heather. Heather? I think that was her name. Close enough. Sorry if I got that wrong. I feel like I was thinking her name was Heather.

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Well, it was a change of pace because usually Maul brings up these couples and goes to their phones and breaks them up, finds out that she's cheating with Jack Harlow. It backfired this time. Amongst a bunch of other things. And who would have known that this time a couple would get engaged right in front of our faces? How much of a legend is Simi, though?

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He might be the first guy I've ever seen get engaged with No Ring. He goes with the flow. Are we giving him praises for this? Absolutely. He raw-dogged the proposal.

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Yeah, he raw-dogged the fuck out of it.

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He let a white man peer pressure him into this. He let what? He let a white man peer pressure him to marry his white woman. That is true. I don't know if I would say peer pressure. What do you mean? Rory literally called him out. No, but he wanted to get engaged. He said he didn't have money for a ring yet. So Rory was like, don't let that kind of stop it.

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For those that don't know, we bring couples on and we ask them questions. Typically, I mean, we could admit it at this point. There's footage. With the purpose to create chaos, I think. Toxic. Um, they seemed like such a genuine couple that really wasn't full of shit. They'd been together for five years. So I asked him, why haven't you, you know, I think it was longer than that.

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I think it was seven, seven years. Why you hadn't proposed yet. And then he tried to tell me a secret, which of course we're going to tell the crowd said he didn't have money for a ring yet. And I said, well, what's stopping you there? That's cool. And then he went, let love win. He did. He did let love, love, win, let love win and let love in. Yeah, I just hope I wasn't a jinx being next to him.

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Yeah, because you're like the last person somebody would want to push an engagement on. You gave him your slippers. I should have. Yeah. And then you think about it, I was wearing slippers on stage.

Chapter 3: How did the engagement proposal unfold?

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If you're not cheating on her, what's the hurt part come from? There's plenty of things. The kid mall. There's other things to be hurt. So every relationship ends because of cheating? I didn't say end. I said, what hurt you? What did she do? She left. She left you for somebody else. That's not cheating. Well, I didn't follow up. You didn't have to follow up. You know she left you.

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What if I was just so trash she just didn't want to be around me?

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That's your fault.

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Wait, so you were hurt just because she didn't want to be with you? He got ghosted. All right, first of all, you've never in your entire life been hurt by a woman that you were with but didn't want to be with you anymore? I don't think that's, I mean, not hurt. I mean, hurt is a strong word. Yeah, like if she's cheating on me, that hurts.

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But if she's just like, yo, I don't want to be in a relationship. That still hurts. I don't know if that's hurt. She didn't hurt you, but that hurts. I didn't do like the snot suffocate cry. I'm sorry, can you do an impression of that? What does a snot suffocate cry look like? You know, like one of those? Dry heaving? You never did coke. Who said he never did coke? Oh, hi, Damaris.

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Should I go viral or something? That's what that was like he was doing. That's not how you do coke. If you do coke like that, you need help. You need both nodules to do coke? That's how Scarface did coke at the end of the movie. A double rail? That's nuts. But yes, I've been hurt by a woman from Brooklyn before. Not Toronto. Yet. Yeah. Maybe one day.

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All the women that have hurt me are from the Bronx. Trust me, you can easily be hurt by a woman from Toronto. Have you been? Because they're very polite. Like their accent, their tone in Toronto, like they're very polite. But demons. Oh man, they have that blood in them that's just like, they'll rip your heart out. We went to the Daniel Caesar show, which we will get to, but at the after party...

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Julian saw a ghost of Pussy Pass. Did you? You're good at hiding it, because I know you saw a bunch of your old joints. I didn't. But at least Julian was admitted. I'm an honest man. And then you kind of ducked. We were at the bar, and he was like, oh my god, a ghost just walked in that I fucked. And then he kind of tried to hide behind me, but he's taller than me.

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He was like Shaq behind the tree. Well, you're not that tall. Wow.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of Logan Paul and Dillon Danis' boxing match?

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The exhibitions are there. Floyd shouldn't be doing that. Even that is like Floyd shouldn't be doing that. I mean, it's a funny retirement plan. Oh, man, it's not funny. It's embarrassing.

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I think Dylan just found out Logan didn't have the knockout power necessary to put him under.

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Chapter 5: How does the boxing match affect the credibility of the sport?

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So you saw for the whole fight, his hands were down here.

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Yeah, but that was halfway through when he realized that Dylan wasn't throwing a fucking punch.

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No, I'm saying Dylan's hands were down, so he was letting him get his – the hands off. He was like, I can take a hit. You're not going to knock me out.

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Chapter 6: What are the potential alternatives to traditional boxing matches?

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But I don't think he had an offensive strategy. He didn't have – I'll just survive.

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Yeah, it was just – and again, that's what I'm saying. It's just we understand that he's not a boxer. Logan's not a boxer, but he actually uses his hands. He throws more punches than Dylan did.

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Chapter 7: How do various fan bases interact in the current cultural landscape?

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So I just – I don't know. Good amateur fighter. I mean, the shit talking is great. You know, they're selling it and all of these things. But if they're going to get in the ring and perform like this, the shelf life on this is... I give more blame to Dylan than I do Logan, though. Of course. Absolutely. Dillon went in there and just, he wanted to fight more once the security was in the ring.

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He was more active in that moment than he was the entire fight. So it's just like, is it just a circus? Is it just like... So that's what I'm saying. It's just like, alright, cool, but if it's not going to be any real fighting in the ring, the shelf life is expiring fast. It's just unfortunate because there is great professional boxers right now. Boxing isn't in a terrible state, but

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competing when you're a consumer and you're competing with all the subscriptions that we have and then you add in a pay-per-view or add in whatever streaming service is putting the fight on Yeah, you're going to go towards the bullshit. Like you're going to go with more of the excitement of leading up to it rather than the sport itself. So I don't know if boxing just needs.

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I mean, take the gloves off of them. Take the gloves off of them and let's get into them. Then I don't think you're getting any points. No, no, no. Let's take the gloves off of them. That's not a bad idea. What they should do is put Logan Paul, put Dylan, put them in the slap. What is the slap? The slap league. Let's do that. Dana. Let's do that.

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Because now it's like, OK, it's going to be contact. Right. Somebody's going to get both people possibly get touched unless you knock somebody out with the first slap. So, I mean, I think that's where you go from this. Like, listen, take off the gloves, take them out of the boxing ring. Let's let these two stand there and let's let them slap each other. Power slap. It's UFC.

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Let's let let's get into the power slap. Put these gentlemen into power slap. No. And maybe I I fell into the trap on that Logan and Jake Paul documentary. Was that on Netflix?

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Oh, yeah, that was Netflix.

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Maybe because I... Not to say I wasn't a fan of them or a hater. I just didn't particularly care. I watched their stuff, but I had no real opinion on either of them. That did make me like them a little bit more because I do see that they take this shit seriously. They were fucking dumb young kids on the internet. They grew up. And now they're taking it seriously.

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I had a lot more respect for them once I saw the behind-the-scenes shit. I don't think Logan would go for the slap shit because I think he really takes this shit for real. I don't think this is a... YouTube money play for him anymore. I think he really wants to be a great boxer. He's not going to be a great boxer. I think two things could be true here. I don't think he's doing it for free.

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