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Episode 231 | Katt Williams vs. Comedy

05 Jan 2024

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

0.031 - 2.594 Damaris

This is an iHeart Podcast.

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2.614 - 3.515 Unknown

Guaranteed human.

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3.535 - 23.279 Mal

Hey, everybody. We just want to say thank you to everyone that supported us in 2023. We're looking forward to 2024. Please subscribe to our Patreon, patreon.com forward slash New Rory Mall. We have merch available at newrorymall.com as well as sketches on our YouTube page, live performances, whole bunch of stuff.

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23.299 - 25.622 Rory

That's right. 2024, 2020 more, Rory.

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25.642 - 27.304 Mal

Yeah, more of 2024, more.

28.668 - 31.734 Rory

More Rory. Score of more. I got nothing really at that point.

32.575 - 43.876 Mal

Also wanted to update our longtime listeners that Eden is no longer with the pod, but we wish him the absolute best. We love Eden. We thank him so much for everything that he did with the pod.

44.738 - 50.288 Rory

Love you. Thank you for everything you did, everything you brought to us, Eden. We appreciate you. We love you. And we'll see you soon.

50.639 - 70.285 Maul

Welcome back, 2024.

Chapter 2: What are the team's thoughts on Katt Williams' recent comments?

129.542 - 133.988 Rory

Yeah. Good thoughts. Wonder what everyone's doing, where everybody's at with their family and their friends right now.

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134.008 - 149.972 Mal

Oh, please. I don't know if I'm snitching, but every time I called Maul over the break, he was driving. I could actively hear him in the car making legal turns with the blinker, putting his windshield wipers on. I think you saved a pit bull or something.

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150.012 - 166.277 Rory

I did. At some point. All this is happening when we're on the phone. I saved a poodle from a pit bull attack. I did. I was driving down the block and a lady jumps out in the street from like in between two parked cars. I almost hit the lady. So, you know, I'm ready to curse her out. It's like a young white girl. I'm like, what the fuck?

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166.297 - 182.841 Rory

So she had like her hands down, but obviously I'm in the car. I couldn't see what she had in her hands. She was kind of bent over. So when I finally saw she had her dog, a pit bull was attacking her dog. She had like a little white, like a poodle or something. So then she picks her dog up and has her dog on her shoulder. So once I see the pit bull...

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182.939 - 207.141 Rory

i was like damn i wanted to kind of hit the pit bull yeah but it was so close to the lady i would have had to hit the lady too you gotta let gentrification take its course like you gotta let life balance yeah but i didn't want to see the white girl and poodle needs to get mauled by the uh i didn't i didn't want to see that so i just laid on a horn thinking the horn would scare the dog yeah right just scared the poodle more yeah that was like that didn't help nothing eases a dog like a horn in its ear yeah i just that really calms

207.121 - 224.404 Rory

a pit bull down yeah I was I was I was I don't know man I just I started acting like a Kyle that's like the white version of a Karen you were I could hear you on the phone like put that on a leash man yeah I was like because then the owner of the pit bull comes and he has this slow stupid like trying to cool run and he has the leash around his neck

224.384 - 242.963 Rory

So I'm like, wait, Alicia's on your neck, but not your dog's neck. Kinky. Yeah, so then he finally got a hold of the pit bull and the girl was like all crying and everything. She's like, I need your information. I need your information. She was on the phone with the cops and everything. And apparently that dude in that neighborhood, that has happened with that dog before.

242.983 - 253.748 Rory

So that dog might be put now. Because somebody else told me on the block, they was like, yo, he always walking that pit bull without a leash. And he's done that before. Something tells me that guy doesn't have valid information to give to that woman.

254.029 - 255.071 Mal

I don't think they're going to find him.

Chapter 3: What was the team's holiday recap?

291.479 - 316.423 Mal

were you driving around in mall what was the car like before she finds out you're a piece of shit like you can just take her car and do whatever you want before she finds out you're taking her car to see other bitches you can drive her car around or other dogs but that's young shit though like people do that but it was the holiday break i feel like no one's really responsible for anything they do between christmas and new year's like that break of we just don't even know what day it is i think you're allowed to do whatever you want like including taking her car to go fuck other women

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316.893 - 337.922 Rory

that's that's crazy that's not me that's way out of my life i don't move like that that's sick to do that now is crazy like i would never do that now when i was 25 oh i was getting that off i was like yeah you're gonna work i'll drop you off don't worry about it and then go to shorty or the other chick crib all the time so what were you doing and like what other activity could you be doing you uber eats your smoothies like where were you driving what were you doing

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338.189 - 344.258 Rory

I was driving uptown, I was looking at new places, I'm moving, I was doing things like that.

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344.538 - 344.879 Mal

Got you.

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344.899 - 346.722 Rory

Yeah. Didn't I tell you that on the phone?

346.822 - 348.124 Mal

Yeah, but that's not fun.

348.144 - 354.313 Rory

Yeah, I didn't tell her what I was doing. That's not fun for content. I told her what I was doing. I'm like, yeah, I'm looking at new places and shit. I'm trying to move. Why are you trying to move?

354.333 - 356.957 Mal

I thought maybe she was back in town for the holidays and you had to go link her.

356.937 - 382.253 Rory

no why are you trying to move mom why yeah um just a different location just different area um the building i'm in now it's cool but they're building like a new tower so most of their attention and focus is on getting that tower up so like the building i'm in is just not they just really don't care about what's going on no more like the response time to getting things fixed things like that is like you got to keep emailing and shit so i'm just like all right i'm out of here man

Chapter 4: How does the discussion shift to Katt Williams' impact on comedy?

485.267 - 485.828 Julian

Didn't do much.

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486.469 - 488.591 Mal

Upstate representatives. You guys probably had snow, right?

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488.952 - 495.699 Julian

No. Smartass. Literally nothing. I was walking around in a hoodie. Yeah. To your point, it's sad. Like, it's not what it used to be.

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495.759 - 503.648 Rory

It just doesn't. I don't. I'm going to just say it's getting older. Like, the older you get, just the holidays just don't. Unless you have, like, a young child.

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503.669 - 506.732 Julian

I have a niece. She's into it. But, like, she's 10. She's smart.

506.752 - 509.355 Mal

She's just a niece, though. You know.

509.335 - 530.308 Julian

No, but like it's like she gets the fun of like the holiday spirit per se. But I don't think it's like Chris. I think she just loves when everyone, the families all together. We watch Harry Potter. I've been I'm back. I've been rewatching the Potters. I did the Harry Potter experience with her at Herald Square. She came into the city with my sister in law. We did. We did that. It was really cool.

531.43 - 531.851 Julian

Check it out.

532.191 - 548.909 Rory

I watched the the ball drop. Was it Ryan Seacrest? Of course, yeah. And I was looking at just, like, the way just outside of Times Square looked. And even that didn't look the way it used to. Like, they have it very sectioned. It's all sections now. I guess security measures.

Chapter 5: What are the differences between Kevin Hart and other comedians?

3065.098 - 3067.622 Mal

Never did the L.A. thing, never sold out.

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3067.602 - 3093.778 Mal

any la shows there was no demand for kevin hart in la he was doing his thing in new york but drastically different from my understanding in the comedy world there's new york comics and there's la comics and the la comics just by proxy tend to be more into the hollywood scene because execs can go see them perform and well you can hear word of mouth especially at that time who's the hot comic coming up different when new york doesn't have necessarily a hollywood market the same way la does right

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3094.67 - 3115.208 Mal

I kind of feel what he's saying. Out of nowhere, Kev, even the peers that were above him in New York didn't get the look that he got. All of a sudden, he's on sitcoms and he's the star of this movie Soul Plane. Out of nowhere, one could think that could be some industry plant shit. And even if it is, does it matter?

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3115.889 - 3124.677 Mal

Because I'm not going to take away the two decades of work that Kevin Hart put in. You can be an industry plant and fail.

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Chapter 6: How does the concept of an 'industry plant' apply to comedians?

3124.657 - 3141.895 Mal

You give me an energy plant and not work hard. You give me an energy plant and not be funny. And if Kevin Hart is not your cup of tea with comedy, I'm not here to debate you, nor do I care because that's your preference. You cannot say Kevin Hart is not a successful comedian and has not done great comedic work during his entire career.

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3142.216 - 3148.302 Rory

I just don't agree with it only because, again, we saw Kevin Hart's rise. We saw Paper Soldiers, the movie.

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3148.282 - 3153.329 Mal

But see, you did because you were actually in the movie. Like not everyone.

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3153.349 - 3157.976 Rory

No, I wasn't in the movie. It was you and Wayno.

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Chapter 7: What are the implications of Katt Williams' comments on Hollywood?

3158.236 - 3177.808 Rory

You saw Kevin Hart. You saw the steps that he took. You saw him come up through the ranks. Other comedians can vouch for him. They've done shows with him in New York and other cities. So he has that. You know that he came up. Now, if he had none of that. None of those stories. And then he kind of just fell into these roles.

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Chapter 8: What advice is given for someone struggling to talk to women?

3178.369 - 3201.127 Rory

Then it would be like, yo, bro, who is this dude? But you actually saw Kevin Hart put the work in. And then I just feel like an industry plan is anybody that... doesn't write their own material. I think you can be an industry plant if you do not write your material, if you do not write your music, your jokes. Then I could see, okay, if you have all the successes, but what is it that you do?

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3201.868 - 3214.823 Rory

I can look at that as an industry plant. I think that's what an industry plant is. We always like to throw this word industry plant around. I think the only people that deserve to be in those industry plant conversations are people who actually do not write their own materials.

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3214.803 - 3219.67 Mal

You were picked out based by your looks in the audience that they're trying to get, and literally molded together.

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3219.71 - 3224.717 Rory

You got the looks, they push the buttons, but this is not... Kevin Hart doesn't fit that criteria.

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3224.737 - 3239.387 Mal

Let's even say Kev did get some of that, and pardon my face when I say certain stuff like this, but we know how Hollywood goes sometimes. Sometimes they need... a non-threatening black person to be in roles when they're trying to get a certain audience.

3241.011 - 3259.971 Mal

Even if that is the case and somewhat to what Kat was alluding to, I don't think that's fair to erase everything Kevin Hart did before that and the work he put in and the talent he has. Right. That there was an opportunity where maybe he did fit something they were looking for. But we've seen that a million times and that person disappears in a year.

3260.692 - 3266.824 Mal

Kev is probably the most successful comedian we've ever seen as far as numbers and the length of a run.

3267.145 - 3267.927 Julian

So much of what we know.

3267.967 - 3269.65 Mal

That plant can't do all of that.

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