Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Chapter 2: How does Mal feel about J. Cole's recent actions?
His career hasn't been based off that. No, but a lot of his career is based on him telling us he's the best. That is a fact. A lot of his career is telling us how much he's better than all the other rappers. And that this is competition. He just said he's Muhammad Ali. He just said that. Muhammad lost. Exactly my point. When lose a draw, you take the fucking fight. That's my point.
When lose a draw, take the fucking fight. You don't back out of the fight because you somewhere reading the comments and everybody's torching that song saying, yo, that ain't hard enough.
And then you get on stage and say, yo, y'all want blood. It's not about the comments, Maul. Yes, it is. Bro, what is it about?
He just said y'all want to see blood. Who the fuck wanted to see blood? Without naming people. First of all, when he said y'all wanted to see blood, he also was referring to his own niggas too. His own niggas who he said hyped him up to respond. Even though deep in his heart, he didn't really want to respond.
I don't think that the man is lying when he says that he didn't feel right doing that shit. I'm not saying... It doesn't, even if he would have went harder, even if people would have went crazy over it, I do believe that he still wouldn't have felt comfortable about it. Do you remember when we sat down with Mike Tyson? Yes, it was a terrifying moment.
And Mike Tyson looked us in his eyes and told us that- Never forget it. I didn't sleep. He told us before every fight, what did he say? He said he was scared to death. Oh yeah, terrified. Terrified walking outside. Mike Tyson said he was scared to death before every fight. Mike Tyson. You know what Mike Tyson didn't do? He did not walk in the ring. He did not fight. You can be scared.
You can be like, damn, I don't really want to do this. But when you're in it and you're one of the greatest. Where did you get in fear from when nobody spoke on fear? You don't have to speak on fear. I looked at a nigga on stage and I could see the fear in his face. He didn't even want to do that. The same way niggas look at you and really assume that you're really upset about this.
You don't know him. You don't know why he did what he did. All you can go off and do is speculate on a fucking podcast because that's what you're supposed to do. The thing that I'm upset about is because Cole could have just went up there and said, you know what? I had I had a talk with Kendrick. This is where it ends. I'm not making no more records. I'm not throwing no more shots. That's it.
That apology he gave us. That was one of the nastiest things the emcee ever has done. And you know why everybody reacted the way they did? Because we've never seen an emcee do that before. We've never seen that before. Oh, Jay-Z, he said he didn't want to battle Nas because his mother called him. Yeah. You know why? Because that had a real potential to go into some street shit.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of J. Cole's apology?
But you're not going to tell me that I'm wrong for what I said about him from an emcee standpoint. Not personally. That wasn't personal. I'm talking about emceeing. As an emcee, there are certain things J. Cole is no longer allowed to say. And if you feel that way, fine. It ain't just me though. I know a lot of people, a lot of people feel that way. You understand what I'm saying?
It's not just me.
It's warranted. I get it. So, so when all I'm saying is if J Cole is in a space where he is feeling like he doesn't, he wants to take the competitive nature out of rap and hip hop. I'm telling you that you are placing yourself in a dangerous position by doing that because now you are leaving yourself open for any other MC to come straight at you and you can't do nothing about it. And then what?
Who wants to root for MC and the rapper that, yo, all these other dudes just be coming at him. It's like, yo, man, he ain't. And that's what I said about career suicide. Because yes, of course, J. Cole's going to make good music from now. He's going to put out good. Of course, he's a great artist. I'm talking about the things aside from just the music.
I'm talking about the standpoint of J. Cole as a rapper, as an MC, the way he carries himself, the bravado, the ego. You need that in hip hop. You have to have an ego in anything that you're trying to be the best at. If you're playing basketball and you're like... I ain't going to lie. I'm trying to take the competitive shit out this.
Everybody on the team going to be like, yo, stay in the fucking locker room then. Because I need to know when these niggas is coming to trap me in the corner that you're going to be there to catch this ball and shoot. If not, you can sit your ass right here. That's all I'm saying. So if you don't want to be competitive, what are you doing it for?
Well, to be fair, do you think that J. Cole is the one that let the air out of the balloon of competitiveness in hip hop? Because these niggas been BFFing. Niggas have been BFFing in hip hop. We've been complaining about that for years. BFFing as far as personal. You can be cool personally. But when you challenge my pen, when you challenge my pen as an MC, I have to step to that challenge.
That's law in hip hop. J. Cole is not going to change that. Drake is not going to change that. Kendrick is not going to change that. That is the law. You are an emcee and you are rapping. You feel like you are the best and you say you're the best and you feel like Muhammad Ali and all this other shit. It's time to show it. It's time to show it. That's all I'm saying.
So for you to lay down like, no, I don't want to do this. I respect the brothers. I forgive your weak acts. Hustling just ain't you. I get that. But now you can never talk that big, really big MC shit ever again. That's out the window. You can go sit down with the lower tier niggas that's nice, but ain't really like that when conversations happen.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of Ross's comments about Drake?
If Ross gets on here, even talking spicy subliminally, actually I want him to. Because that might get Drake to come out the whole pause. I want someone to talk spicy about Drake on this shit. Because I don't think Kendrick's going to do it. So maybe if Ross starts getting on his scallop bars. Yeah, but Ross already had a feature on the first one. I know, but that was. I like that record too.
That's probably one of my favorite, probably my favorite record on there. That was like in between the whole unfollow baby mother going to the show thing. Like, it wasn't really on yet. If Ross gets back on there. Ross' baby mother went to Drake's show? Was she on the riser? Yeah. No, she took a picture of her envelope with the gold. With the gold. Oh, she had a package at Wilco. Drake did it.
Chapter 5: What beef did Chris Brown address with Quavo?
Drake did it. No, no. She didn't go to Ticketmaster and buy a ticket. Okay. She was invited. She was in the green room. Okay. Well, you know, that's. She had never spoken to Drake a day before that unfollow.
oh that was calculated got you okay he said only stipulation and i'm making this up of course yeah is you have to post that photo got you matter of fact i'm gonna hand write your name everyone's gonna know that's my hand right from the boy from the that's to ross bm not even a phone to ross bm from the boy in gold leaf sharpie and he looks like he would put like not even love the boy like just heart the boy yeah i mean
We'll see. I'm excited for this album. Speaking of deluxes and well, not rap beef, but R&B. We got the 1111 deluxe and Chris Brown threw some shots. Did we start this beef? Yes.
Chapter 6: What are the hosts' thoughts on the passing of DJ Mr. C?
Is that being narcissistic to think that we started? Yes. Well, they hated each other, but we fueled it. That's why we spoke about it because we knew they didn't like it. Chris didn't fuck with him before that. That's why we even spoke about them sitting next to each other like that.
So, you know, Chris, now I'm not saying our clip didn't add, you know, I'm not saying it didn't add some inspiration to address it, but, you know. It allowed Quavo to tweet and Chris to IG caption shit. Yeah. Do you guys want to hear a line? Of course.
that song is hard by the way that's a ball so I guess my old bitches ain't gonna make us equal my old niggas ain't gonna make us equal Quavo and Cuervo are a play on words so he's saying if I'm 1942 you're Jose Cuervo
I don't think we needed you to break that bar down. Thank you for that. 1942 is much higher quality tequila as well. I don't know if you knew that.
Then Jose Cuervo.
Different level, different shelf. Yeah. Different, different. It's just a little different bracket. I get it. Fun fact that no one cares about. First time I ever threw up from alcohol when I was 15, Jose Cuervo. So I feel Chris on this.
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Chapter 7: How do the hosts reflect on the legacy of OJ Simpson?
Yeah. Cuervo made you sick. Hey, yo, don't even, don't even start what she was about to say. She's about to get into some nasty shit? I know exactly what she was about to say, and we don't need that energy in here. Sorry. So does Quavo reply? It's not the rap beef we wanted, but is it the one we need? Hey, hey, hey. Hey, Cypher. That's a good undercard.
Listen, I just hope good mental health on both of these gentlemen, on Chris and Quavo. I don't want to see black-on-black crime, police brutality. You know what I mean? Like, I... Just saying police brutality. That's what they said in the episode. They kind of tied... Just buzzwords and shit. Nancy Pelosi. What? They tied all of that shit into...
Yo, am I the only one that see shit the way I was like, that's not wild? It's insane. That's fucking crazy, man. But anyway, you know, it is what it is. First of all, before we go any further, rest in peace to the legendary DJ Mr. C. Yes. One of the architects, one of the pillars of hip hop. One of the guys behind some of the greatest MCs, greatest rappers we've ever heard.
A staple on radio in New York City for years. A staple in the nightlife and the club scene in New York City for years. We lost him yesterday. He passed away. Not sure how yet. Hasn't been reported, but he has passed away. So rest in peace to the legendary DJ Mr. C. Yeah, this is a rough one. Condolences to his family. Prayers to his family.
And if you don't know who Mr. C is, and if you're a fan of hip hop, I don't know how you don't know who Mr. C is, but... know read on who mr c is read on what he's done the artist that he's he's broke the records he's broke the the artist that he's dj'd for um you know he was just one he's an encyclopedia of hip-hop
And they say our elders are like our culture's libraries because they have so many stories and so many things to tell and things like that. And Mr. C in the culture of hip hop was definitely one of those guys that if you ever had the chance to be around him and talk to him, you definitely left him knowing more about hip hop, knowing more about rap.
and just know more about the culture, period, in general. So to lose somebody like that is definitely a big loss. So prayers again to his family, his loved ones, his friends, and, you know, let's keep Mr. C's name alive. Yeah, and I know people say this, like, every time someone passes, but he was one of the most genuine human beings I've ever met in my life. Mm-hmm.
And I thank God was saying that when he was alive too. And I think everyone that crossed Mr. C's path, if it wasn't on like a Monday morning, cause he wasn't really a morning person. Yeah. He was one of the nicest human beings ever. Fun, quick, like C story just to like what represents who he was, at least to me. So he did a bunch of Palooza's. I can't even count how many times he did Palooza.
Every Christmas he, Mr. C has a list of everyone that he worked with throughout the year, who booked him, who he did business with, who he made money with. He calls every person on Christmas to wish them Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, whatever. Let's work next year. Thank you for thinking of me. That's a different type of genuine shit. He was just a good dude.
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