Chapter 1: What romantic rules does Mal discuss with Demaris?
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Chapter 2: What is the breakdown of toxic lyrics in popular songs?
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of Big Sean's alleged leak?
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Chapter 4: How does the crew react to Kanye's wife's nudity in the headlines?
We'll go to Ishka Bibble's. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure that's probably a little touristy now too, but. I'm sure it is. Yeah. Did they add a vegan cheesesteak? I believe they did. So what would it be? Like Brussels sprouts and vegan cheese? Cauliflower? Not really Brussels sprouts. Veggies though. Peppers, onions. So literally everything but the cheese and the steak. Well, vegan cheese.
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New Rory and Mal. Born down in a dead man's town. The first kicker took us when I hit the ground. Ended up like a dog that's been beat too much. Till you spend half your life just covering up now. I was born in the U.S.A.
I was born in the U.S.A. In Night Vision. But why did you send Damaris a lullaby? I sent her an EP of my friend Lauren, who works with Child. She did all the strings on my album. Okay. Really talented. She put out an EP, just an instrumental EP. Oh, she got on her Andre 3000. So then you put vocals over it. No, I did not. I mean, but there is space if somebody wants to rap over it.
You can go check it out. Morning light. But it's a good EP to like, you know, in the morning, start your day or go to sleep. Like just music, just sound. Yeah. I wouldn't classify it as lullabies, but I see where Damaris is trying to take it.
It is lullabies.
You know what I'm starting to do on the wake up? Listen to classical music. This is actually labeled classical music. Really? Oh, wow.
I got to check it out. We'll send it to you.
I mean, I would put it at the top of the episode, but you already decided on Born in the USA. Yeah, we're going to start this episode. Well, we started this episode with Born in the USA. They already heard the boss. Yeah, the boss. Bruce Springsteen. Damaris said something that kind of triggered a conversation I wanted to bring up like two minutes ago.
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Chapter 5: What are the key points in the discussion about Ariana Grande's vocal talent?
She's a one or two trick pony. No, she's not. OK.
No, she's not. You bump Ariana regularly because I do. I bump Ariana, Monica and Brandi regularly. Rory can attest to how I've defended Ariana Grande's vocals for years. Yeah, that is true. Ariana Grande. In fact, if Ariana Grande was a black woman, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
Chapter 6: How do the hosts compare Ariana Grande to other vocalists?
That's a fact. So it's the ponytail you're saying? No, it's the fact that she's not a black R&B vocalist. But if we did not know... If she was black, what would be different about her career? She would be respected more as a vocalist if she was a black woman. She would be. Coco Jones. Love Coco Jones. Think she's amazing. If Coco Jones had the voice that Ariana Grande has...
No, if Coco Jones had the skin color that Ariana Grande has.
She's a star. Coco's a star. What I'm saying is she would be a bigger star if she had the voice of Ariana Grande.
No, she would be a bigger star if she had the skin color of Ariana Grande. That's not true. Since when does being a white girl hold you back?
What the fuck? Straight white men are under attack in this country. Who's holding anybody back, though?
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Chapter 7: What humorous moments arise from the conversation about sex swings?
Like, what are you talking about?
You're saying that she would be more respected if she was black. No, she wouldn't.
No, I'm saying as a vocalist, not as an artist. I'm saying as a vocalist, like how you feel like she can't sit with Brandi and Monica. If she was a black woman with that voice, you wouldn't say that. I think people are going to confuse Maul's point. I know what he is trying to say. Yes. Because she's a white woman that definitely helped her in her being a pop star. But as far as like the respect.
The respect of a vocalist, of a singer who can sing. Ariana Grande can sing. That because she's a poppy white girl, she doesn't get that R&B respect. She doesn't get that R&B vocal respect.
Chapter 8: What advice do the hosts offer regarding a listener's relationship dilemma?
She doesn't get that. Now, I'm sure she'd much rather have the white privileged pop star route that she has done. I don't think that's what he's arguing against. He's just saying the music lovers and connoisseurs.
He's saying that black people don't invite these white women. A white woman that can sing, we embrace them all the time. Niggas love Christina Aguilera. Niggas love Selena. Celine Dion. I don't think Christina Aguilera gets her vocal credit though. Niggas love Adele. What are you talking about?
Christina Aguilera doesn't get her vocal credit. I really don't think she does. Ariana Grande doesn't get her. But also on the other side of that coin, I don't think Beyonce gets the vocal credit she deserves.
No, Beyonce does not. But that's because of the pop music. It has nothing to do with your skin. It's the type of music that you make. When you don't make soulful music, then no, people aren't going to look at you as a soulful artist.
Yes, but even Ariana, because your thing was she can't sit vocally with that. Your statement, I was replying to your statement. Yes. Was that vocally she can't sit. Julian, we're doing a podcast.
Just ice. But yeah, back to my original statement. I don't want it to seem like I'm taking away or not respecting Ariana. It's not about my disrespect for Ariana. It's about the level that I hold Monica and Brandi at. It has nothing to do with Ariana. It's the level that Monica and Brandi have.
That's fair. But I, because I've had, and Rory can attest to this, I've had this conversation about Ariana's voice for years. she does not get the respect vocally that she deserves. No, I would agree. And a lot of it is because of the type of music that she's known for. It's more of a pop sound. It's not your R&B sound. But when she gets into that R&B vibe,
To say she can't sit with Brandi and Monica to me. I think she could. She's not a better vocalist than Brandi, but she could.
I think she's a better vocalist than Monica.
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