Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Chapter 2: What are the implications of comparing Drake and Mariah Carey?
Because it was during the day. Yeah, nah. That's how you're supposed to party, though. Party at 8 a.m. Let's start drinking at 9. And then you had to get to the bathroom. It was like on the other side of the convention center. So you would just watch drunk people with full glasses just cut through kids' activations. It was interesting. But I had a lot of fun. Shout out to Rock.
They did a really good job with the 40-40 thing. I don't know. Is this a rollout for something Hov's doing? Or did he just feel like he wanted to do... I believe they are opening another 40-40. Yes. Okay. Where's that going to be at? Not another... They're reopening the same one?
Yes.
Technically, yes. They're reopening the same one.
Like the one in the city? I don't think they're going to go for the same location, but the plan is, I think in a year or so, it's time to open the club again.
This is how out of the loop I am. Is the 40-40 on 25th in Broadway?
It's been closed. It's been closed.
Okay. For over a year. The last party they did there was like, I think the party that they do for like your birthday. Okay. Every year. I think that was one of the last parties. Oh, wow. Damn, that's crazy. It just shows how much I haven't been outside. I mean, I assume they were going to open one if they end up getting that Caesars Palace thing. Oh, there's definitely one there.
There would be one there. I don't know, man. I always liked the 4040 Club. I did too. Does that make me like a tourist? I always thought it was a cool spot. The 4040 Club to me was always like a cooler version of ESPN Zone. Yeah, more or less. You know what I mean? When they closed the ESPN zone, that broke my heart. That was like my favorite little place to go watch games, fights, whatever.
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Chapter 3: What are the perspectives on Kanye West's recent comments?
Like, you should just focus on the game. He's not going to be there. He's still looking for those cigarettes. So I'm trying to tell Damaris, when you were on the other side of the office and I went to Damaris and I said, you know he's not Lincoln, right? He's not Lincoln. Like, don't put a deposit down on that cabana. Don't have Ciroc bottles show up because Maul's not going to be there.
That's not true, though. It's not true. I hit homie. He hit me back. He said his people wasn't there at Dumbo this weekend. I was like, all right, cool. And I woke up late. I woke up at like one o'clock and called Demarius. To be fair, we were supposed to be at the pool at 1230. He called me at one o'clock to cancel. I called her as soon as I woke up. As soon as I woke up, I called her.
But you knew your ass had to wake up to talk to me. So why did you go to bed at four o'clock in the morning, ma? That's just how the night went. Sometimes you just look up and it's five o'clock. You're like, damn, I got to go to sleep. What were you doing? I was in the city. I went to go eat, and then we went by my boy's studio, smoking and shit, chilling. And then I was like, yo, it's like 3.30.
So you wasn't doing shit real? I mean, that was real. It was really chilling.
They signed the contract. He had to go hang out with them.
I was really chilling, and then I was like, yo, I'm taking my ass back home. What type of studio was it? It was a recording studio. Okay. You maybe get the urge?
you saw the recording equipment and just I've never gotten you didn't do a response to Rory you didn't like channel no there's no way you didn't see a microphone at least think of a four I promise you a two and a half I promise you I've seen plenty microphones in my life and never thought I'm gonna go in there and lay something down That thought has never crossed my mind. Not one time.
I promise you that. I saw Lenny at the 40-40 thing and he put a camera in my face and said rap. And I was like, fuck. Am I now one of those rappers that needs to have a 16 in the tuck? Yes. Like I was on the spot. I felt like a fraud. Like, I couldn't rap the same. I couldn't rap my hit single. You wasn't really living your rhymes. Bar for bar.
Yeah, like, trying to get that off over the music at 4040 would have been... It's just not the same. It just don't hit the same as the parking lot. But finish this, because Damaris and I did have a bet about this entire thing.
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Chapter 4: Should media publicly critique other media platforms?
I go on Twitter and start talking shit about him. I was in the bed. I go on Twitter and start talking shit about him. I'm like, yo, I'm going to expose Maul. If he flakes on me, I'm going to expose him. Expose me for what?
right screenshots what is exposing me exposed so then nine goals 10 goals 11 goals 12 goals mind you i don't already expose him in a conversation that we'll get to later but already on twitter that i found that kind of funny though to backtrack you did your exposing before he even had a chance to call you you're like i'm gonna expose him i said if he don't call but just to let you know he thinks drake is better than mariah i was like well there goes the whole game i
I think Drake is better than Mariah. No. What I said was, I'm going to tell y'all the dumb shit more. Say if he don't respond to me. I gave him an hour and a half to respond. He didn't respond. So then I tweeted. Then he calls me. The tweet has 500 retweets already. I sent him that video. He calls me bonnet on, smoking. Like, yo... Get the fuck off. You know what I'm saying, yo?
I'm not going to lie. Bonnie, I ain't smoking. You ain't going to wake up, huh?
Like he was my baby mother.
That's breakfast. You know, you got to wake up him. You know what I'm saying? So how did this conversation go once you guys finally connected? Nah, I told him, you was wild. I knew you was going to do this to me like you always do. And I told Twitter to dump you. Man, Baby D sound like one of my, you know what I mean? I got to take her out. Now I got to take you out.
Because you think I ain't shitting now.
I can't do that.
I'm not begging niggas for nothing no more in 2024. Yo, but why you be giving me the energy that you be having for these other niggas though? Because that energy is not for me. You act like these other niggas. No, I don't. How? Worse, actually. How? You way worse. That's crazy. You set expectations and you don't meet them. That's crazy. What's the daughter saying below to Boston George?
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Chapter 5: What factors influence media critiques in the podcasting world?
The podcast world, I mean, us included, has been personal stuff that has ended up on podcasts. So critiques come from real rooted personal issues. And I honestly have no idea with Mel and Mandy, but- That's where I think most of these things derive from. But if a podcaster just straight up wants to critique a podcaster, cool. Who cares? That's what we do here. Who gives a fuck?
But speaking of to that cold that you were talking about earlier between the radio hosts, is there... Because, you know, if a regular person goes and critiques, let's say me, right? If you're just a normal person, you're going to critique me. People say I'm an awful podcaster all the time, whatever.
But if a person with a platform that there's two, three degrees separation from my platform or one degree separation from my platform says that, then it's like people are going to pay attention to it. And it's kind of like you kind of expect it to be made into a bigger thing. So, I mean... It's like drama. Anything that looks or feels or smells like drama, people run to it. Yeah.
Even title and clips, they make it seem like it's beef and it's drama. Rob Markman, Of course. Rob Markman, People just love drama.
Chapter 6: How do personal experiences shape podcast discussions?
People just love when somebody's going to curse somebody out or say something crazy about somebody. Rob Markman, To me, that's not a podcast problem. That's a human problem. The news does that. Podcasting didn't invent clickbait or crazy titles. They've been doing that on CNN for decades. No, I'm not blaming. I'm just saying people love that type of shit. For sure.
We've been programmed to love it. Which is why people title things a certain way to make it seem like I've been a victim of that. I read a clip and I'm like, what? Go right to it. I'm like, that ain't what this is, man. Like, it ain't no, it ain't no real beef here. Like, what the fuck is this? So it's just, you know, I get it. I just laugh at it, man.
I'm just, I'm in that, I'm in that, that zone in life where I'm just, I just laugh at shit. I'm going to get off my lawn guy now. Well, I feel like you might have critiques about other people's podcasts that you don't
say he don't listen to podcasts or other people other media outlets I won't even just say podcasts other media outlets that you might hear and you too and you guys kind of keep your thoughts to yourself you don't say them listen I've given love and praise to these other podcast niggas and I've never listened to none of their shows that's a fact But you can see how they're moving successfully.
Salute to doing your thing and being happy. That's just how I am. Salute to whatever it is you got going on. As long as you're not harming anyone. Salute. Do your fucking thing. I don't care. I'm not like... Do whatever it is you think you want to do and you good at. Yo, do your thing, fam. And I don't... People just get too caught up in themselves and make everything a personal issue and...
Why are you so invested in what other people got going on that you would have an issue with? A lot of the shit I try to figure out and I just realized that people just, that's just the type of shit that they're into. They're into drama. They're into bullshit. They're into nitpicking and having an issue all the time. And you recognize that and you understand like, okay, it's not personal.
It's not me.
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Chapter 7: What does it mean to be 'demure' in today's culture?
this is what this person does. They find, they look at anybody and they find something that they can create an issue or have a problem with and they just maximize that. And sometimes issues result in views. Always issues result in views. When you're dealing with somebody like that, I'm going to always lose that game because I'm not creating no issue and no beef for no views. I'm not doing that.
So if it's somebody out there that is doing that and I'm on the other end, yo, you won because I'm not doing that with you because that's just not what I do. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to create a problem or a back and forth with something that's not one worth it or even real. I'm not going to create bullshit just for, yo, this shit might do 100K. Like, what? That's crazy to me.
But I understand the environment and the ecosystem that we're in.
People got bills to pay.
Pay your bills, man. And I mean, I guess get it how you live. Guru put on his story a few weeks ago I'm paraphrasing. I don't have the exact quote, but he was pointing out that the biggest interviews right now are media people interviewing other media people. That's the biggest thing right now. Media itself is now the celebrity of it all.
Like the one-on-ones with media and used to be the artist was the thing. We look to media to talk to our favorite artist or our favorite person. and conduct an interview where we could hear things that we've always wanted to hear from somebody that we like. The biggest views now are media, interviewing media, talking about media. It's a very weird place that we've gotten to.
So I totally get why conflict and back and forth has become the norm. Because we're not talking about the very entertainment that we're in. We're here to discuss media. That's because shit ain't really that entertaining anymore, to be honest. You said it's not that entertaining? It ain't that much talent that's being centered or that's being entertained.
When we talk about music shit or try to introduce people to new artists, people always say that people are uplifting all these shitty artists. When we put attention on good artists, nobody really gives a fuck. People care about drama and lies like you guys have said before. So the media people, no, they're not going to talk about the talent and the people that are creating the good stuff.
No, they're going to get them what's going to get them clicks because clicks is what gets you paid. And that's why you have media talking to media about media. There's no need to talk about the talent anymore. I used to love like in the early 2000s when like Twitter was going nuts and they used to kill Ebro for not playing real hip hop or what was coming up on the radio.
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Chapter 8: How do listeners react to trendy words and phrases?
I would love to talk about straight up underground artists all day. This would tank. This would be done. I think we do a great job of balancing where we don't chase bullshit or become those guys that like really make issues out of nothing. But we also do play the game to some extent. We have to. This is a business. I have a child. So you want to like beef right now? Yeah. Hold on, sorry.
So Manny went after Mel.
I said if all the women are beefing, we got to throw Damaris in the mix.
Yo, does Alex even media anymore? I just see him on the microphone now. I don't even understand. Why is that your name? It should be Alex Microphone. Alex Microphone is fucking hilarious. When's the last time he media? Yeah, he don't media. He don't media at all. I sleep in on Alex. Alex don't own studios. He definitely does. Me don't. What?
A media me don't.
Wow, that was really fucking bad. Like, that was bad. Too many espresso martinis.
See, look, you're critiquing a media person. Fuck you guys. You're a part of the problem.
Yo. I am a part of the problem. I agree with that. Oh, we all are definitely a part of the problem. And I do want to make this clear. Have any podcasters critiqued you guys?
uh there was one time i think um uh someone i don't this is the thing i when i say this i really mean i don't listen to any of these hip-hop i don't care about this like that the those pods and shit but not on a disrespectful tip like even danny i respect danny but i stopped listening to his because it's like i just it's too much that's too much It's too much fodder.
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