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New Rory & MAL

Episode 300 | 300

06 Sep 2024

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Chapter 1: How do the hosts reflect on reaching 300 episodes?

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4.637 - 6.56 Clifford Taylor IV

A win is a win. A win is a win.

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6.58 - 7.581 Rory

I don't care what y'all say.

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8.422 - 16.273 Clifford Taylor IV

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Chapter 2: What are the hosts' thoughts on Marlon Wayans' recent interview?

154.263 - 176.971 Rory

I don't really have an intro. It's just been 300. Because I got some things on my mind today. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Oh, we can get right to your thoughts. I don't really... We've seen all the comments. They didn't think we would make 300. I didn't pay any of those comments any mind or any theory. They thought we was over at 55, Rory. They thought we were over at two. You know what I mean?

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176.991 - 188.148 Rory

They thought it was over. Here we are sitting on top of 300. Yeah. Thank you to everyone on the team. You guys are appreciated. Couldn't have done it without you. You guys look thrilled.

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189.67 - 190.772 Demaris

Yay.

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191.056 - 212.2 Rory

Julian looks amazed right now. Going through all 299 episodes. My only comment was going to be, it would be 350 episodes if we accounted for all the shit we had to cut out. That too. Yeah. We have like full episodes. We have episodes and segments that we've had to scrap that have quite frankly, more often than not, been my favorite parts of the show. But you know how that goes.

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212.64 - 222.917 Rory

One day, like when we're all retiring and going off into the sunset, we should leak all the episodes that would get us canceled. Yeah. Just as like a final hurrah.

223.478 - 223.698 Demaris

Nah.

223.738 - 225.401 Rory

Not even paywall. Just like, just put them out.

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Yeah. I mean, I've tried to fight to put some of those out in the day that they happened, but you know.

232.872 - 234.475 Rory

I still want to put out the Candace Owens episode.

Chapter 3: What praise do the hosts give to Doechii's new album?

240.484 - 253.645 Rory

All right, fine. That'll stay behind a paywall. But, um, $300. Cool. We don't really have any balloons or celebrations, but I guess we should celebrate in the moment. My therapist says I don't do that enough.

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253.906 - 254.987 Unknown

Celebrate in the moment? Yeah.

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255.167 - 275.265 Rory

We should really take a step back and be happy of our accomplishments. 300 episodes, that's a lot of potting. That's a lot of talking. That's not including Patreon. Right. No, that's just a lot of talking, a lot of audio, a lot of time in front of the camera. But it doesn't, honestly, it doesn't feel like 300, though. Like, when you put that number on it,

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275.549 - 298.857 Rory

it's like because we record so many other things and yeah you know it's like 300 doesn't even seem like it's like no it's it's more than 300 yeah i'm counting in years at this point yeah episodes i don't even really particularly yeah well and also it's it's 300 regular episodes we've obviously put out over 150 200 some odd patreon episodes at this point as well so that you know

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All available at patreon.com.

302.189 - 324.175 Rory

If you want to get 400 plus something episodes, those are all there. But yeah, I don't really have much as far as celebrating 300. I mean, I guess, I don't know. Do we think back at all our amazing moments? I hate doing this shit. What are you guys' highs? I feel like we have to talk about it. I mean, thank you to all the listeners for listening for 300 episodes.

324.195 - 345.814 Rory

Most importantly, thank you to all the listeners, everybody that comes out and supports us, everybody that comes to the live shows, people that interact on social media, whether it's good or bad, we appreciate all of it. Yeah. Sometimes I appreciate the negative comments. Uh, why? I mean, I don't particularly care, but. Because it just, it just proves me right most of the time.

345.834 - 364.691 Rory

That what people are miserable? Yeah, exactly. It just proves me right. So when you see miserable people online, you're like, oh, there you go. They caught someone this past week that was complimenting our last episode and, you know, being a father and that whole conversation that we had on Tuesday. And they found like an old clip of him. I don't know if it was on Twitter spaces or what it was.

364.711 - 383.62 Rory

He was like, they not lasting more than 55 episodes. They're done. I told you, that's the gentleman I was talking about. That's exactly who I'm talking about. And then he said facts can change. That was his reply. Facts can change? I thought it was funny. Facts can change. I like that. Because facts can change. They can. But it wasn't a fact when he said it at 55. No, that wasn't a fact.

Chapter 4: Why is there a disconnect between Big Sean and mainstream fans?

418.192 - 430.692 Demaris

Well, he's a fan now. I don't want y'all to shit on him. But he might have watched it at episode 50 and felt like the shit wasn't going nowhere. And then after a while, we have gotten... First of all, this is 300 episodes. We have gotten better. Like, that's like... We've grown.

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430.933 - 449.114 Rory

That's subjective. I can't... Agreed, but... It's fine that he wasn't a fan and is now. I think that's great. Thank you for coming on the journey and giving us more grace. And now you like what we do. But to say it was a fact at 55, like in the confidence in which you said, he's like, no, no, that's a fact. They're done at 55.

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Yeah, but no one gets on the internet and goes like, just my opinion. Don't take that seriously.

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455.243 - 467.876 Rory

No. People on the internet and streamers just scream facts as loud as they possibly can. And for some reason, people... think that means it's true. But, you know, world we live in. Julian, your hair looks different. Did you do something?

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I just, yeah, today I just went, what do they say? What do the women say? Au natural? Nah. A-U?

474.29 - 486.001 Rory

I don't want to say all natural. I want to say like the French one. Okay. You're American. There's no product in my hair is what I'm saying. This is out the shower, straight to the studio.

486.061 - 487.222 Demaris

Now you look mulatto.

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This is what they call it, my natural frizz.

493.471 - 510.537 Rory

How long before a girl can see you in your natural state? If she sleeps over and wakes up next to me. She would be so privileged. Would you do the bonnet with like a... I don't think I've ever worn it. I don't wear that. You wear bonnets? Don't need that.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of Ice Spice's relationships on her tour?

4389.564 - 4409.63 Rory

Let's say three weeks. Let's say three weeks. You mean to tell me that nobody from iSpice's team had any type of contact with Cleo Trapper at all? I don't know. But they're sleeping in the same bed some nights? Because to me, come on, man. There's like a, this is my homegirl that's coming on tour with me. Yeah, but that doesn't become everyone's responsibility.

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4409.65 - 4414.939 Demaris

No, y'all keep saying this is my homegirl that's coming on tour. If she was just a homegirl that was just like bunking, like just like on some goofy shit.

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4415.079 - 4430.838 Rory

If she was Ice Spice's homegirl, which I'm sure Ice Spice has some homegirls on the road with her, they're taken care of. That's a fact. If you're, if you go on tour right now, if I go on tour, me and Rory go on tour right now, and I have my fucking best friend come with us, you think that this nigga ain't gonna get a chicken salad?

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4430.858 - 4434.144 Rory

Okay, but then, but then, wherever we're ordering, he's partying.

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He's getting me.

4434.625 - 4443.86 Rory

Like, what are we talking about here? And again, Ice Spice is a shitty person here, but then, anytime Kia was there, I didn't separate the expenses of food at the venue. I apologize. She got a chicken salad.

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What does the tour manager look like if Ice Spice has clearly made this awkward environment where this girl is halfway in but not officially with the crew?

4451.148 - 4466.363 Rory

That's why I said it seems intentional. No, but then the tour manager, when they go to the steakhouse, say that girl is there. Ice Spice is going to look at that table and say, who the fuck told this bitch to come to this dinner? And then I'm going to be the tour manager. This is why emotions can't play into being a tour manager or someone running a show.

4466.463 - 4476.5 Rory

But that's different because now if she does say that, I'm like... This girl, y'all are sleeping in the same bed. But you're still wrong. I didn't want her at this fucking steakhouse. Get her out of here. This is clearly your friend.

Chapter 6: How do personal experiences shape views on relationships and lust?

4547.835 - 4572.645 Rory

I don't think he's on the iSpice steakhouse group text to make sure Cash Cobain ate. So imagine that is how this was set up. Everyone on tour is well aware of who Cash Cobain is. He's responsible for him. Then all of a sudden, the day before, when we already have this system, there's just another random opener that I've never met and no one told me that I have to be responsible for it.

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4572.665 - 4592.582 Rory

Because from my understanding, the openers take care of their own shit. Because that has been negotiated months in advance. And I'm speculating, of course, but I am pretty sure that's how it went about. Because we know Cash Cobain is getting paid on that shit. And he's not on the food per diem with iSpice. So you just throw a random opener the day before and now I have to rethink...

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4592.562 - 4613.085 Rory

my entire why do you keep saying the day before that's what they said they was how many shows well the Texas show was the well I think they were in Arizona that was the 20th show 19th 20th that Cleo Trapper did yes so stop saying the day before 20 show on the tour not that she's done she could have joined halfway through no she joined the beginning

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4613.639 - 4617.766 Demaris

She joined in the beginning, like the beginning of... Yeah, y'all got to stop saying the day before.

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4617.786 - 4619.529 Rory

That girl was on the road. She was there.

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She was a part of the show.

4621.874 - 4643.964 Rory

Yeah. Separate point that is related to this, though. I do appreciate that this younger generation sets boundaries because my mentality at that age was thug it out. Like, I'll figure it out. I'll go get dollar menu food. What was the boundary that was set? Of being vocal, you need to pay for my food. Like being expressive about this.

4643.984 - 4663.583 Rory

Because I just unfortunately come from the intern school or the like, you have to pay your dues shit. Where like, oh, all right. If I can't sleep on this bunk today, I'll sleep on the floor. I'm trying to make something of myself. Like you gave me an opportunity to open up. Cool, if you can't pay for my food that day, I won't eat. I'll sleep on the floor.

4663.744 - 4673.548 Rory

I come from that school, which I think has good values in it. I think it made me the person I am today. But it is fucked up. Yeah, but you're missing one thing in that.

Chapter 7: What lessons can be learned from the passing of Rich Homie Quan?

4765.594 - 4781.023 Rory

Off GP, and it's just like, nah. And And I spice kept it business all the way through and was like, yo, she's not I'm not paying for her food. Like, I think that's probably what it was. It's fucked up. But I mean, the lesson here is know who your friends are. Know who your friends aren't.

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4781.624 - 4790.313 Demaris

And if you're a young artist, have your fucking manager. Everything needs to be in writing and have your manager a part of every conversation. That's just, that's period.

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4790.894 - 4797.421 Rory

And I completely agree with y'all. But how old do we think Cleopatra Trappa is? Like 20 something?

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4797.842 - 4800.004 Demaris

I think she's like 24 or something like that.

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4801.005 - 4807.232 Rory

That is kind of... I'm not excusing the behavior, but that is kind of...

4807.297 - 4828.866 Rory

part of the come up she's 26 if you have an opportunity last minute and someone says let's do this yeah it's gonna suck but this is part of the process I think people should keep their word but nah if I'm trying to be a rapper or an entertainer and somebody hits me the day before yeah she should have her paperwork in order she should have everything set up that way

4829.251 - 4835.846 Rory

But nah, if that's going to delay anything, then fuck it.

4837.009 - 4851.579 Demaris

She asked her the day before to come on tour. She went on tour a day after she found out that she was going. Wait, what? Ice Spice asked her to go on tour the day before the tour started. Okay. But that's why you keep saying he gonna keep saying the day before.

4851.639 - 4854.644 Rory

But this has been, but they was on tour for almost a month, right?

Chapter 8: How do we find meaning in tragedy and loss within the music industry?

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That means Cleo. Ice Spice is... That means Cleo ain't lying. Yo, that was the coldest... That means Cleo ain't lying. When niggas start saying shit like that, it's like, oh yeah, the other person's telling the truth. Ice Spice is tough, man. That's for sure.

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4911.888 - 4931.538 Demaris

Yeah, when Cleo basically... Because Cleo did... After Cleo said something about the bags, she didn't say anything else for the rest of the tour about food, about... She complained about nothing. She went out there, she did the show, whatever. When she didn't leave Atlanta with them for their last show in Miami... She wrote Ice and was like, hey, like, a long message.

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4931.638 - 4946.485 Demaris

I didn't feel safe on this tour. I didn't feel, like, taken care of. Like, I just, all of these things, like, I don't feel like this was a good friend, yada, yada. And Ice said, wow, you really mad ungrateful, da, da, da, da. And, like, just went off on her. She called her, she was like, have your, she basically called her a careerless bum.

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4946.465 - 4962.469 Demaris

And Cleo Trapper was like, when you met me, like before anybody knew who you were, you were like, wow, this is a full circle moment. I'm such a fan. Like, yes, you skyrocketed and you became so famous so quickly. But like, I've been out here grinding for a while and you knew who I was before anybody knew who you were.

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4962.689 - 4973.725 Rory

But to me, that's where I spice can't win for losing. Once you say that type of shit. You lost. If I'm such a bum, why did you want me to open up? That's why I just said what I said.

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Once people start saying certain shit.

4975.568 - 4994.173 Rory

You think I want a fucking bum on my show? Yeah, once you start saying certain shit, it's like. Also using biting a bum into your bed. Yeah, just say, yo, my bad. I was wrong. It's that simple. You ain't got to go to the name calling and all that. And another thing that's going to be really interesting to watch is because that Cleo Trapper girl, people really like that girl.

4994.778 - 5002.625 Demaris

They've always liked her. She has talent. Yeah, and her personality reminds me of Cardi. She blew up big on IG like Cardi did.

5002.645 - 5016.018 Rory

So I say that to say, God will humble you and God will... Them tables turn. And a year from now, we might be talking about Cleo Trapper in a whole different space. And we might not be talking about Ice Spice at all.

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