Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Lucky for us, we're just a bunch of chill guys.
Yeah, a bunch of chill guys over here. Matter of fact, I'm just popping my hands in my pocket. Do I look chill? I'm nothing like the chill guy, man. But where does it start? You look like you're pushing your ass through your pocket. We can't never find a pocket pool. You guys never play with your balls, though? In class when you were kids? Are you kidding me? I do that all the time here.
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Chapter 2: How does the chill guy meme influence the conversation?
Philip Banks, pretty much the new Steve Jobs, if you think about it. Yeah, I mean, come on, Philip.
Listen to this. I love articles. It features a human-like brown dog wearing a turtleneck sweater, red shoes, and blue jeans. The artist described it as a chill guy that low-key doesn't give a fuck.
And that went viral. But I feel like that's kind of... This is the original. That's stealing from Kevin James, I feel like. Remember the meme where Kevin James is kind of just like with his hands in his pockets? Yeah. I'm just a fat, chill guy. I'm just the king of queens. Why are you calling him fat? Because he's fat. He's not fat. Kevin James is not fat. I don't think he's fat.
That's a large man. They tried to replace Chris Farley with him because he was fat. Not because he was white. They needed a fat guy in their crew. Spade, Adam Sandler, Chris Rock. They needed a fat guy. Yeah. Who's the fat guy you got in your crew? I don't know. My dad bought. I might be close. I'm getting there. You sound like those skinny anorexic bitches. I'd be like, oh my God.
And my ass looks big in this. That's what you sound like. Are you body disforming and shaming me? What? Morphea. Body disforming.
Morphea.
Morph. So you call me Morpheus?
Mm-hmm.
I'm not going to make it through this episode. I'm not going to make it.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of Jay Leno's recent incident?
Yeah, that's actually what women say. This man literally can't fix what's downstairs. Y'all grown ass women acting childish. Cut the fuck out. Can't fix what's down still. Women can bust it at that logic. Is she talking about Queen Naja's ex's sex tape that went viral and everybody was saying, oh, yes. Oh, that happened? I didn't even know that happened. I didn't know anything about that.
Yeah, so Queen Naja. I was being a chill guy over here. Yeah, I was being a chill guy and I was holding my phone. And social chill porn? Yeah, her ex, that's all you see on Twitter. Her ex, I think a sex tape leaked or something of her baby father. Okay. And... They were saying, oh, he's not, he has a small penis. So women was killing him. Like, how did Queen Naja stay with him that long?
And just then they're put up with all of that. And he, I was like, all right, this is why I just retweet like show shit and just get out. I don't know what's happening right now. Chill guy shit. Chill guy. I'm just posting the show. Okay. So that's what sparked that for her to be, you know, stand on, stand by herself with this message. She's not staying by herself. This was bravery.
Women have been saying for the longest. Put her on the 20. We like boyfriend dick. We like average dick. And men get so offended when you tell them that they have boyfriend-sized dick. Mm-hmm. Men get offended at that? Well, you explained to us like a few months ago that term. I'd never heard the term boyfriend dick until you explained it.
Dick you could take every day and not want to kill yourself after. You've had sex where you want to kill yourself after? Yeah, it's painful. Having sex with people who are too well-endowed is painful. But men think that sex should be painful for women, so... They do. They do. Y'all are laughing, but I'm dead ass.
Chill guy blowing backs out.
If I pay attention when I'm stroking, I could change how you walk. I killed that. I murdered that. Tore it up. All of that is very violent language. Y'all think that sex is supposed to be like. I agree. The words are a little aggressive, but I don't. I mean, I know we speak for all men and all women on this podcast. I don't think all men are like, yo, I want to harm her.
Yeah, I've never said that. I've never went into the red. Like, you know what? Yeah, no, I don't mean literally, but you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's all in the music. Like, beat that pussy up and all of that. Like, I get it. Yeah. Yeah. I 187'd that pussy. Yeah.
So...
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Chapter 4: How do the hosts feel about Denzel's actions in Gladiator 2?
Like, he said, you could come live in my mansion. Here's a room for each of you. He was on some R. Kelly trap you in my house type of swag. Oh, sorry. This happened 30 miles outside of Pittsburgh. That checks out. Oh, yeah. Okay. Mafia. Why was Jay Leno 30 miles outside of Pittsburgh?
He was, uh, performed at the Palace. He's a Steelers fan. He performed at the Palace Theater. Oh, well, no, sorry. This is back in LA. He must've been there for a show.
I guess he's at a casino by chance.
Yeah. That's crazy.
How far is that from Foxwoods?
Demers has a point, though, because she said he might stay at places like that because people wouldn't suspect someone like that to stay at those places. Mark Zuckerberg and like other tech billionaires used to do like big, heavy meetings at like Denny's or like a shitty diner because no one would ever expect them to be. Yeah, but they're not that openly talk about.
Yeah, but Mark Zuckerberg is not as recognizable. Even at the height of his fame right now, he's not. Steve Jobs used to do it as well. Steve Jobs' Facebook became more famous after he died than when he was alive. Yeah, but Steve Jobs, he couldn't have been dressed. He couldn't have had the black turtleneck on. No. He had to throw them off. He couldn't wear Levi's that day.
Nah, he had to throw them off. He had to put a hoodie on. Nah, that's not Steve. He has a hoodie on. I could see that for the tech billionaires, but Jay Leno is not throwing anyone off by staying at a Hampton Inn. No. And he has security and fake names at whatever five-star resort he stays at. I think Damaris might be right.
There may have been a wife after one of these shows in rural Pittsburgh, and she's like, oh, I'm at the Hampton Inn before I go home. And Jay, you know, is feeling the vibes after the show. Sometimes you get so much energy from the crowd after a show, you just stay up. The juice is flowing, and sometimes you're like, yo, I'll go to a motel.
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Chapter 5: What are the criteria for Grammy nominations?
So why can't that go for albums? The come up could be an album. Now it's on DSPs. Masses are about to get it. Why can't that be Best New Album? Because it's... It was never released as an album. It was always released as a mix. DSPs have changed that. Everything is an album now. Summer Walker's, the title of her project was an EP and it was nominated for album of the year. EP was in the title.
Which, the new one? The last one, the last year. Mm-hmm. Why can't Cole get nominated for... Why can't So Far Gone, the year that they put it on DSP, be up for Rap Album of the Year? Because it's not... That wasn't the year that everybody found out about that album. Here's the quote that matters. The album that made Drake famous. Everybody knows about the come up. So Far Gone, yes.
I'll give y'all So Far Gone. There's no way even some hardcore Cole fans that are not of age know about the come up. I was 17 when it came out. You think hardcore J. Cole fans don't know about the come up? I think there's a good majority.
Yeah.
No, I don't know. Any J Cole fan knows about that. I think there's hardcore Nikki fans that, that don't even know about beaming up Scotty till she re-released it. That,
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Chapter 6: How do artists define their fan base?
I don't think so. I don't think so either. Not a fan. Guys are bugging. I'm talking about young fans. But if you're a fan of an artist, if you're a fan of an artist, you're not going to miss an album. Where would you have accessed these things? If you're a fan of an artist, you go back and look. Somebody doesn't become a Michael Jackson fan off his new release.
All that stuff is readily available everywhere. For a lot of new fans, the first J. Cole project ever was Sideline Story. To them, that's the first thing, because when they do their research, the only thing that is in albums or projects released is that album, not knowing that Cole had seven projects before that. All right, so you're telling me a J. Cole fan knows that.
Hardcore Drake fans know Comeback Season?
Yes.
That are young, not me. Yes. Okay. Y'all are fucking. If you're a fan of an artist and you're like, damn, I thought it's my favorite rap, my favorite singer, whatever. And they have an album. You like, I never heard that album. You're going to find that album. I have argued because of this podcast with hardcore Kendrick Lamar fans. A majority of them never even heard of Overly Dedicated.
But at some point, they did. No. They're young. They don't fucking know. They think... They don't even know Section 80 like that. Section 80 doesn't exist. Good Kid, Mad City is where it started for them. How young are you talking? Like, kids that are 20, 21 now. 20, 22, 23. I would give this to y'all if YouTube didn't exist. No 23-year-old kids are going off in.
A lot of that is just random singles that they just think are Lucy shit. Like... Bro, they have whole comeback season playlists. Man, I find it hard to believe that there's a 23-year-old Kendrick Lamar fan that has not heard all of this. If you're 20 this year, the come up came out when you were three. Right. Why would you know about that? And it was not available.
The come up I have, I downloaded off Dat Piff in 2008. That's the only reason I have it. All right, so hold on. You're telling me that when I was in high school, and if I would have heard that Biggie had a fucking mixtape, And I just missed it. I was too young when it came out. You're telling me by the time I was two years removed from high school in college. We're giving you a tangible thing.
You're making something up. I'm just saying that I would not have found that album as an artist, that I would not have found Biggie's fucking first mixtape at 20 years old. I think there is hardcore Jay-Z fans that are my age that don't know the S. Carter collection. What do you mean they don't know it? They don't even know it exists. I don't believe that. At 32 years old?
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Chapter 7: What are the implications of open relationships?
Yes, I guarantee you my peers that I went to high school with, some of them that consider themselves big Jay-Z fans that could recite all of American Gangster when we were seniors in fucking high school did not even know S. Carter Collection existed. You can't call yourself a fan of an artist at 32 years old and you didn't hear... Oh, I think a lot.
And that's why I think a lot of these younger fans are fans of the moment. They're not fans of the artist, but not a fan at all. I'm talking about, we're talking about real fans, like real. Don't sit up here and tell me a Nikki stand ain't know about fucking. You think everyone that is at a cold concert in the garden knows the warmup, But that's not what we talking about.
There may be no Friday Night Lights. That's not what we're talking about. Yes, it is. No, just because you're at the show of an artist doesn't make you a fan. Just because you're at the show of an artist that doesn't make you a fan. People buy tickets just to go to shows to discover new music. Young people don't do that. You just sat up here and we had a whole conversation.
Young people can't afford to do that. We just had a whole conversation about what's the homie that had that viral TikTok song? I wish you knew. Whatever his name was. Steve Lacey. Steve Lacey. And you said Steve Lacey was complaining about the fucking fans only knowing the one song from TikTok. And you said, yeah, that's because these new fans don't.
So they only buy tickets because they heard one song. That's an awful, awful comparison. What I said was people buy tickets to shows, even if they aren't fans. That's what I said. And you said that that's not true. It is true. And I'm saying Cole, Cole, who has a core fan base that is large, that sells out arenas. He even has young fans that are in their early twenties.
I'm saying they did not go back and know even the warmup. It wasn't even available on how they receive music. It wasn't even available to them. It's literally on YouTube. It wasn't even available for them to research. It's literally on YouTube. All of these things are on YouTube. When you say fans, I'm just thinking fans dig. They go, they look for, they search. Am I saying that it's impossible?
Yes, of course there are some fans who might not know. But we're not going to say a large majority, which we were quoted saying earlier. It's not a large majority. Some, probably. A lot, probably. But not a large majority. Of the young fans, yeah, I think it's a large majority. Okay, we can agree to disagree. Like... All right, never mind. I just don't see a 22-year-old Cole fan. You're not 22.
I know. But I'm just saying, like, you saying I can't see a 22-year-old... You don't... 22-year-olds receive music off of YouTube. All of that shit is on YouTube. Okay. You don't go on Twitter unless it's our pod shit. I'm on Twitter all the time.
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Chapter 8: How should one handle money disputes with family?
I saw the responses. I click tweets and go all the way through every reply. Everyone that was fucking excited about... this being released, you could tell was of my age or older. Yeah, but they were probably excited because now it's on DSPs. Yes, because we were the ones that knew about this. Not because they never heard it. Not because they never heard it before.
They're just like, oh, it's on DSPs now. Okay, cool. Like I could be on my phone and just fucking. Because we knew about it and we're like, oh, thank God. The young kids can find out about it now. Nah, man. I think young fans, if you're a fan, you search for projects of artists that you may have missed that you didn't know about. Once you hear about it, you're like, I got to hear that album.
Not every fan is us. No, no. You're right about that. But you said large majority. There's levels of fans. But you said large majority did not hear it. We are a different level of if we like an artist, we are going to research every last thing they've ever done. That is not the sole definition of a fan. There's plenty of people that are diehard fans that only know about your major album releases.
Yes, the ones that are on Apple and Spotify.
Yes, that's it. That's what we're trying to say. To me, that's not a fan.
That's most people. Most people are very passive listeners of music.
You're not a fan.
I think there is a huge... You can be a big fan. You can be a stan, but just consume the studio.
Now, once you start saying stan, you're not a stan of somebody and didn't... You know what time J. Cole takes a shit. when you're a Stan. You know the products he uses when he takes a shower. Stan is different. They know everything about this artist. You're not going to tell me a Stan knows about or heard about the warm-up and never heard it. A Stan? A Stan knows that. I agree.
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