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Episode 326 | Your Claim Has Been Denied

06 Dec 2024

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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It's financial literacy month, and the podcast Eating While Broke is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future. This month, hear from top streamer Zoe Spencer and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum-Pierre as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up.

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There's an economic component to communities thriving. If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they fail.

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Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend who's much more famous than I am. I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel. On our podcast The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup.

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Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to The Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro1021. And I'm Konky, his best friend and business manager.

Chapter 2: How do the hosts react to the United Healthcare CEO's death?

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And we've got a new show called The 1021 Podcast. I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports. And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA.

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Listen to the 1021 podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just can't be right. It's all Kendrick. It's all Kendrick. Are we recording? Maul just discovered that Kendrick is his top. What did it say, Maul? No, I think it's Kendrick. And then YG. We can start with our year wrap up. Text it to Julia so he can put it on the screen.

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I love that we got to see the real time. reaction. Nah, say the artist. My baby said this can't be right. Who is it? The top artist? Yeah. Oh, Drake, but Bryson Tiller was second. What's wrong with that? I don't remember listening to Bryson Tiller. You were jamming to that album. That album came out this year. Earlier in the year. I don't remember listening to that shit for 3,624 minutes.

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Damn, that's crazy. Talk about a Bryson fan. Did you fuck to it? Wait, you been listening for that long? Fuck that. So what's the Drake minutes then? If you were listening to Bryson that much, 5,800. God damn. Then Don Tolliver, 2,152 minutes. Leon Thomas, 1634. Love that. And then Ye Ali, 1512. So Don Tolliver makes sense for you. Do you fuck to the Bryson album? You ain't answer me.

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No, I just, I think I probably had it on like repeat cleaning and shit like that. And it was one of those type of, you know what I mean? Like the week it came out, but. I just feel like I listen to so much other music this year. I was not expecting that to be number one. Well, it also shows you your top songs by the month, which I think is interesting as well.

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So all my top songs are bath time stuff, but if I get past that when I go to top songs, Jay Electronica, Fruits of the Spirit. God, you guys are fucking... And the second one, what did I go through this year? Why is Drake jaded number two as far as not bath time songs? That song goes hard. No, jaded is a classic. But what the fuck was I going through this year?

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And then after that, Lil Sim's Angel, which is like one of my favorite fucking songs. Then Black Milk, No Wish. And then it's all bath time. I don't have much to contribute unless you like Elmo's Splish Splash. too many bubbles in the bathtub also a sleeper here beach boys surfing usa nice what do you just put on the like the bath time playlist okay yeah it's there's like the kids shit

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But Too Many Bubbles in the Bat Tub for the second year in a row is my number one song. My number one song is Chow by Bryson Tiller. Yo, because you was chowing down. That's why. Nah, that's my shit. That's why. And number two is Circadian Rhythm by, but they could both be number one because they both have 93 plays. Circadian Rhythm. I like the song.

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I just wouldn't expect that to be your number two. That's what I'm saying. I'm like, yo, what? Like, I don't remember listening to this shit that much. Mine makes sense. Mine really, really makes sense. Julian? Oh, my songs. I mean, four of my top five songs are Jungle. I was in the jungle. And then my fit song is a salt record. That's it. And then albums. Uh, damn.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of the healthcare system discussed?

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Lotto. Lotto, Glorilla. That's one. Not Glorilla. Megan is one. Drake. No. I would say Cardi, but she doesn't push shit out. Nope. What is another woman that does rap? I listen to more than just rap. Tierra Whack made my top 15. Oh, she did. Hey, that's good. That's the only female rapper that made your list? Yeah, from my top 15. No, Little Sims and Tierra Whack. Okay.

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Dochi made one of my lists. See, that's what doesn't make sense with some of this stuff. I have ran that Dochi album into the fucking ground and it's nowhere near anything that's on it. It's the album I've listened to by

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far the most if you go to if you go to top albums by month which should be all the way damn near all the way at the bottom you can see when her album came out it is cool that they did that because i screenshotted mine and it's very accurate to my obviously to my like listening habits throughout the year like when that tyler album came out in october my october november are top most played albums the tyler album i mean tyler's my number four played artist period in this top artist shit

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But I don't understand how this works because all my top songs are bath time shit, but Elmo's not number one as far as artists. So how do they do that? Is it just totality of what you listen to? I listen to too much Bob Marley for that not to be on none of my lists. That's crazy. Since Apple and Spotify have been doing this, Frank Ocean makes my top five every single year and only has two albums.

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That's kind of crazy. Who's your top five? My top... Elmo? Elmo's Greatest Hits?

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blonde this year yeah wow mine is cowboy carter by beyonce because i'm a real nigga obviously that's also another album i ran into the ground that isn't showing up here i'm calling cap on some of these recaps man no worries is my most played album even makes sense to me and then that gambino album in july yeah i mean it kind of just mirrors what album came out that i kind of like that because it's like oh shit yeah that's when that came out

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My top five albums are Cowboy Carter by Beyonce, Sugar Honey Iced Tea by Lotto, Megan by Megan Thee Stallion, Cut Ties by Keanu LaDae, and Tyla by Tyla. That's your top? Top five. That's my top five albums. My top five artists. Wait, I was still, I wasn't done guessing. I said Keanu LaDae. She has to be in there. So you had Keanu, Megan, and who did we say? Beyonce. Beyonce.

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And then fucking, who are you always arguing about? Mariah Carey. She is also one of my top five.

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Called it.

Chapter 4: How does the conversation shift to celebrity lawsuits?

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Based off this blurry video. I just don't think it was a professional hitman because he chose to do it in the most lit area of that sidewalk. It literally was under the lights of the hotel entrance. Okay, but I feel... They said he was there for like overnight. He was there for a long time. Yeah, but you're not going to do it right there in the most lit area of that sidewalk.

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Yeah, but if you get one shot, one opportunity to seize everything you've ever wanted.

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He look too calm. He's calm. I don't know. He might be a professional.

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He's so calm with that shit in the middle of Midtown. That's a fucking migrant, man. They got a migrant. He's a migrant murderer from fucking El Salvador. He's a migrant murderer from El Salvador. This is who they're killing. Bring him in. Wait, it can't be a migrant. They get free health care. We don't. Oh, yeah. Why would a migrant do this? Yeah, that's very true.

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Wait, so I had a question cause I think I thought it was an amateur. I think he's just a disgruntled guy because like millions of people in this country, the decisions that this guy made affected a bunch of people. A lot of people went broke, a lot of people lost family members, et cetera. Do you guys ever see the movie? I care a lot with Rosamund Pike.

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No, it's like she plays a, an insurance scam woman. It's a Netflix movie. It's really good. It's based on a true story, but basically, Oh no, I have seen this. I have seen it. It's great. So remember like the first scene spoiler alert, the first scene of the movie, there's like a disgruntled guy that like she robbed his grandma, his mother's estate. Like he got out of the will, all that shit.

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She fucked him over. He's pissed off at her, like gets arrested or whatever. In the first scene of the movie, like one of the first opening scenes,

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the last scene of the movie she's getting out of a parking lot she just cashed out hundreds of millions of dollars she's up big she's like doing her thing the guy sees her in a parking lot goes hey you she turns around he takes out a gun with a silencer whatever shoots her in the parking lot and then walks away I think that was a case of this.

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This guy knew who the person is that could be the culpable for what happened to someone in his family. And he's like, fuck it. I'm just going to take matters into my own hands. Sometimes it's just the guy you piss off that you don't know. That's true. I'm more on that side too. Like, you know, PG and I were in the studio yesterday. We actually laid tinfoil on the ground.

Chapter 5: What insights do the hosts share about narcissism and mental health diagnoses?

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You kind of have to to survive. A little bit of it. Yeah. But I don't think there's an actual. But I think once you start pushing that onto other people is when it gets crazy. Kind of sounds like it kind of echoes gaslighting in terms of like making other people feel lesser than or weak and.

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Gaslighting is more about making other people feel crazy or making them judge their own mind state or what they know to be true.

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But I feel like that's what a narcissist would do. A narcissist would gaslight, yes. Be great at it. When I was reading that headline, I was very curious how someone could even get diagnosed with it. So if you have five or more of the traits that you guys read off your diary. I thought you were going to say five or more, baby mother.

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probably a good indicator that's probably yeah that's probably on the list too like how many baby mothers you have five or more of the traits you're diagnosed with thorough psychological evaluation looking for consistent patterns or behaviors including the things that Maul mentioned earlier I would love to like just take certain mental disorder tests just like for fun we should do one I mean I'm a little scared what the results would be but I would love to go through that like with a real therapist yeah

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I think it'd be interesting. Like, even when Chris Rock went on his press run to announce that he was mentally ill, I forgot the condition that he has. I was like, how do you even get diagnosed with it? Like, what is that process like? Yeah. Didn't Jerry Seinfeld have say something? That's why he can't smile or be nice to people. Money. What did you know?

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Sorry, I mean, I have this.

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It's like you're just an asshole. It's fine, though. You've been in your character. Your career is about you being an asshole. I mean, but not just even comedians, but I think a lot of creatives in general probably have a lot of mental disorders. Yeah, he said he has. He said he said I have autism. And he said, that's why I am the way I am.

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He's like, sorry guys, I'm this way because I have autism. But he said, however, he later clarified to Access Hollywood that he is not on the spectrum. Well, that's not how that works. That's narcissism right there. Yeah, that's the narcissism. I'm autistic, but I'm not on the spectrum. I got it, but I don't though. I got it if I want it. When it's necessary.

Chapter 6: What are the implications of the Daniel Penny trial and vigilante justice?

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Save your money. I was supposed to call for a follow-up. That was a great dad joke. That was a great dad joke. Forgot to do it. Forgot to take the test. It's all good. We all got ADHD. I don't give a fuck what nobody says. Every human has ADHD. Every human. Crazy girl wants to leave me, but she always forgets. There you go. We all got it. Who said that? Hov.

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In more local news, Daniel Penny trial. Penny, right? Yeah. Daniel Penny trial. For those that do not remember, Daniel Penny... He was the victim or the... See, all right. Daniel Penny is the former Marine. He was 24 at the time. He's 26 now. Well, it was last year. It was May 2023. He...

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got involved with someone on the train that's involved a black man on the train he intervened uh with someone that was kind of you know acting erratic and he was a homeless man uh and he put him in a choke and the choke lasted for nearly six minutes the victim's name was jordan neely he was choked out on the train the train doors opened people left the car the gentleman still stayed on him in a chokehold once he finally got off everyone arrived whatever

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The gentleman passed away. So it's one of those quarrels of, was this guy being a hero, stopping a potential danger, a vigilante? Who's this? Is he a white knight? Well, Jordan nearly condones this to his family. He was the victim. If I recall, he was threatening people on a train? Was it something like that? Like he was making threats? Yeah, that was the case. Yeah.

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In this timeline, they talked about him standing up and like whipping his jacket and started with asking for food and then kind of becoming more abrasive towards other passengers, which is like not uncommon. I mean, the subways, we... grew up on the subways, there's obviously people suffering from mental health issues that we ride the subway with. That's where they all congregate. Right.

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We've all been yelled at on the train. We've all been yelled at. I've been threatened on the train plenty of times as a kid, as an adult. So this just sounds like, to me, a situation where somebody was on the train, a gentleman came on the train, started making threats, being aggressive towards passengers, This is a guy's name, Daniel Penny. Yeah. Daniel Penny. Former Marine.

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Former Marine who probably felt like he has the tools and skill sets to protect himself. He has a special set of skills for sure. He has a special set of skills. He can protect himself and other people on the train. I only like to make Peach laugh.

Chapter 7: How do the hosts respond to listener voicemails about relationship dilemmas?

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And he got up. That's funny on multiple levels because we just talked about how he was just hunting black people. Like that's a double entendre. Good job. There was layers to it. Yeah, there was layers to that.

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So this just sounds like he got up, took matters into his own hands because he felt like I've been waiting for this moment to show what I learned and had a guy in a chokehold a little too long and end up killing him. He's probably going to do some jail time. I think they will find him guilty. And probably rightfully so. Oh, no, rightfully so. But find him guilty of what, though, exactly?

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So the charges are second-degree manslaughter and criminally negligent homicide. I think he, the criminally, the lesser charge, up to 15 years. Yeah, I think he won't do 15 years for that. He's 100% guilty of that second charge. Yeah. And I think that's kind of case closed.

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Unless in the next two weeks, Candace Owens can find out that that gentleman had a fentanyl in his system, and then it's okay to kill him. It's funny you say that. So the gentleman, Neely, who had passed away, was diagnosed with schizophrenia, and he had weed in his system at the time. Oh, shit. He deserved it. He smoked weed. He deserved it. His fucking case closed. Come on, man.

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Let Daniel Penny walk free. The weed closed his lungs.

Chapter 8: What reflections do the hosts have on family dynamics and inheritance issues?

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No, but in all seriousness, Daniel Penny will be, I think he will be found guilty of the lesser charge and probably do maybe five years in prison or something like that. Not in any way that this is tied into the UnitedHealthcare thing, but I guess it sort of is as far as citizens taking things into their own hands.

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I do think New Yorkers should protect each other on the train, but this was a little too excessive. We've all been in situations on the train, and I'm not even mad at... Someone holding down someone that may be threatening someone.

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But you knew what time it was. A chokehold is different. You got somebody in a chokehold. And you're a Marine. You're not stupid as far as what you know, what you're doing with your hands. Yeah. But I've seen that on the subways plenty of times. A passenger gets up and gets into it with somebody on a train that's harassing or being aggressive with other passengers, and they get into a fight.

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And, you know, they hold the person down until the cops come because it's usually cops at every train station. Yeah. So they hold the person down, but not in a chokehold. Yeah. Whatever happened and just like pinning someone's arms behind their back or just like, you know, laying that like, you know what I mean? Just restricting them without cutting off.

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I think it's hard to make that decision if you're in it. Like I'm pretty sure Daniel Penny was a little, he probably acted out of fear as well and didn't want to allow the gentleman to move and probably didn't know if he had a weapon, didn't want to get stabbed, didn't want to get cut.

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Um, but if you have somebody in the chokehold and you can clearly see when they're not moving, they're not even awake anymore. Um, You know at that point... You know when they're... Yeah, it's like, all right, he's not getting up. You don't have to continue to sit there and keep them in that chokehold. He's not fighting. He's not trying to get up. He's not trying to be aggressive.

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He's not even moving anymore because he's unconscious. He's passed out. So I just think it was a little excessive, but I've seen it firsthand. I've seen people just out of fear... Yeah.

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react on the subway and hold somebody down and not want to get off of them because they're like, I don't know if he has, if I let him get up, he might have a blade on him, something cut me, like I'm not letting him get up. But not in a chokehold. A chokehold is totally different. That's why you can't let ferry people on the trains. Ferry? Not that ferry, Maul. He's talking about Staten Island.

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