Chapter 1: What topics are covered in the introduction of the episode?
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Chapter 2: How do the hosts feel about Stove God Cooks and Westside Gunn's contributions?
No, you're not. Def Jam, I have to give them some credit. They are definitely recouping as fast as possible. They gave this motherfucker the Lions game and then All-Star weekend, and he doesn't even know how to turn a mic on. Yeah, but it's bad, bro. I was just sitting there like, I can't be the only one. And I know I'm at that age where I'm starting to hate everything. I accept that.
I've been there. I embrace that. But I knew I wasn't the only one that watched that performance and was like, all right, fam, what is this shit? You know who I felt bad for? The dancers. Because they smoked. They was working so hard behind that fucking awful vocal performance. I felt bad for them. Yeah, I felt bad that they had to learn that routine.
Like, mom, I'm really going to be on TV all-star weekend. And then their families had to watch them dance for that bullshit. Yeah, they had to learn them transitions in that little white girl twerk for LiAngelo Ball. Get out of here with this shit. Nobody want to see this shit, man. Yeah, he just needs... They need to go back to being, like, hype.
Because even if you forget lyrics or you're not, like, get hype, engage with the crowd, like, it's a performance. It's not for you to come out there and sound exactly like I'm playing the record on the radio and have the nerve to have the backtrack in the back. Right. Like... And you're not even with the backtrack. No. Like how you miss the TV. The TV track is there to keep you on point.
Because he's not an artist. He's not a performer. He just caught a song. Like even when 50 and Yeo missed their cue on Amusement Park, whatever that was, VMAs. I mean, at least they did a show. Like, they went in the crowd and actually dapped people up and had full conversations when they missed their cue. At least be a performer.
This is why I had an issue with that song, because I knew it was just about name and clickbait. They should have had LaRussell's talented ass performing in that slot instead of D'Angelo Ball. And that's the problem I have with records like that. When you have this name, Jello Ball, that people are just going to click because of the Ball brand. And shout out to the Ball family.
Nothing but love and respect for the Ball family. I don't want that to get lost here. I'm just talking about a song that I don't feel like is a hit song. So now you give this song the level or the stage of being an all-star weekend when guys that are really talented and really perform their ass off and really know this craft, like LaRussell, From the Bay. And represents the city.
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Chapter 3: What are the key takeaways from the All-Star weekend recap?
Represents the Bay everywhere he goes, sitting at home, and you don't have him come perform. Lil Russell could have had that spot and had to actually jump in way more than that record, performed way better. That's the things that I get mad at when I see things like that because I know what it's about. It's just trying to catch a moment and capitalize off a name that is already clickbait. Yeah.
That's what I don't like about it. No, LaRussell definitely deserved to do his little bunny hop dance like right at center court. Let LaRussell go out there and rep the Bay all weekend, man. He needed to be on that stage and on that level performing. That's what I like to see. I mean, maybe we just didn't get it.
Like maybe he was cosplaying bad performers and like there was a deeper meaning to what he was doing. No, LaAngelo thought he was Pac when he walked out there. If he do this one more time, the gun to the dome, if he do this, the head tap, if he do this one more time, you never did that.
You cried when they had you locked up in China for stealing memorabilia or whatever the fuck you were stealing over there. You wasn't doing this in the jails in China. It wasn't no head tap. It was none of that. It was Trump, please come get me. This nigga was crying, man. Stop. All right, now we'll stop. Now, you don't remember, Rory? You remember he was crying?
He was begging for America to come get him. He saw what we traded for an old girl. It was like, you can't get me? Yeah. Like, he was begging for Trump to come get him. Now, all of a sudden, his head tapping. Get out of here. Swerve, bend the cord. You ain't going to do none of that shit you rapping about. You're going to cry in that jail. Damaris, did you see our friend Jazz's Instagram?
Who is Jazz? We love Jazz. Friend of the show. You met Jazz. Okay. We have a lot of Jazz's, baby. Which one? Joyce Jazz. No, I didn't see. I think she worked on the whole Jell-O thing. Somehow I think she's involved because she did post, which I wanted. I love her to death and she's great at her job. I love jazz so much. I stopped myself from replying to her posts.
Instead, I'm just going to come on a podcast and say it, which is really fucking worse. She gave Jell-O the most fucking... Most improved at basketball camp trophy. Yo, it's really hard to get out there and perform in front of people. You're so brave for doing that. I was about to say, Jazz, first of all, you have toured with Joyce Anderson-Pack, Bruno Mars. Kiana Lede.
She has been a tour manager for some of the greatest acts we've ever fucking seen. Kate Trenada. Don't you dare fucking say Jello's brave for doing that shit. No, he is brave because he wasn't supposed to be out there. He's very brave going out there doing that shit. That was rough to watch.
It is what it is.
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Chapter 4: What do the hosts think about the new music from Drake and Party Next Door?
Really? I don't disagree with you on that. I do feel like Party kind of like was like in the studio just like, yo. Yeah. Participation trophy. I don't think Party really... Which I personally, that's one of my favorite parts about the album. No shade to Party. I like Party's music. But... I would prefer more Drake than Party on this album, and I think that's why I like it so much.
On My Way, like, Party smoked that and carried it. His energy on that record feels way more present than the rest of the project. Like, even with a written testimony where Hov kind of just filled in the blanks on certain shit, that's kind of how I felt they treated Party on this. Like, all right, just fill in a part here so we can make it a collab. Mm-hmm.
I still loved what he did, but to me, this is more of a Drake project. He feels like the lead on everything, and I don't know. Again, it's just a theory. I really feel like Drake was blowing Party's phone up. Can you finish this shit for me, man? But also, Rory, when I think about it, what I'm going to go with is that the reason why it's a collaboration album is that Party wrote a lot of it.
I think that might have been... You might not hear a lot of him, but I think Party wrote a lot of it, if that makes sense. I'm sure. But again, to me, these didn't feel like... Party had a bunch of records on a hard drive, and then Drake came in.
No, definitely not. They worked together.
It actually felt the opposite to me. It felt like Drake had these songs, and then Party got on them. Because in the past, we know with Legend that that was a Party song, and then Drake came in and smoked it. Every time they do collab on his projects, they always feel like, all right, this was a Party record, and then Drake came in. Yeah.
To me, this feels like Party came in, and Drake already had all these joints. He has the perspective. He leads... Every concept, like to me, it's a Drake project. I mean, I didn't go into it trying to listen for that. Some sexy songs for you, to me, it wasn't sexy songs for us men. I don't think that Party and Drake put together this album with men in mind. I did love Party's...
Post and delete on his IG story. What did he post? He said, this isn't supposed to be analyzed. You're supposed to fuck to this. Yeah. Go get some pussy. But that's what this played like to me. It played like more life. It's like a playlist. Okay. I'm not mad at that. To me, it sounded like a playlist that they put together for women. Came out Valentine's Day. So to me, it played like a playlist.
It was like some songs that they put together. One of the songs, Pammy's Dilemma, which I love, they're not even on it.
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Chapter 5: What are the highlights of Griselda's catalog?
This shit is crazy. It's actually unreal how good his catalog is. No, I'm going to go ahead and say it, man. We need Griselda to get back. We need that Griselda back. We need Conway. We need Benny. We need Gunn. We need them three to get back and give us... Give us that feeling that they gave us. We need that back. We need that Griselda energy back.
Chapter 6: Why do we need a new Griselda project?
I love what these three are doing on their own collectively. I mean, individually, but what they do collectively, what they do together, what they do as Griselda is something that I think is unmatched in hip hop music. It's just legendary shit whenever those three are together.
Whenever you let Benny and Conway go off, whenever you have Derringer in there, bring Conductor in there, Alchemist, and let him curate that, let him executive produce that. Let him creative direct that. I think that that's that formula that they have is unmatched in hip hop. And again, I know those, you know, they're doing their things individually, but we need that. We need that Griselda shit.
We need that shit back. Yeah. I do think, and we talked off mic about this. Yeah. Of course, 12 is incredible, but we all feel like the next step for all three of them should be that joint Griselda project. Yeah, we need that. We need that Griselda shit, man. They all went on their own and do great things with their own clips. Absolutely. Without great solo projects.
We need the three of them back. Yeah, man. I need that. Just for my own selfish reasons, I need that sound and that energy. Just that classic, you know, What Griselda did with Derringer, you know, I just think that that's something that is missing. Like we need that. I would drive up to Cuse if there was like a Baby D Stove God club hosting, like a walk through the two of them.
They shutting Q's down. He not even that type of guy. He's not into that type of stuff. I know, but I mean, y'all are the only two that like really put on for the city, I feel like. So I feel like y'all need to come together and maybe like... Yo, Damaris being the only one that put on for Syracuse is hilarious. I mean, Melo did for a year.
Oh no, Sun went, all right, you know what, he's still trying. Yeah, Sun is going, yeah. We need to put together like the Orangeman Festival or some shit. Melo could host. First of all. No, Lala could do all the hosting. Tootsie is also from Syracuse. Word? I didn't know that. Yeah. I like Tootsie. He's dope. Yeah, I like him. But yeah, man. You know, we got some legends in the building. You know?
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Chapter 7: What is the significance of Jacob Lattimore's new music?
Real talent. Overlooked. And that's why I feel like me and Damaris realized that we've known each other for what? 11 years. 11 years? Yeah. I sent her a reasonable drought when it came out. And she was like, oh yeah, Steven, that's my guy. I was like, you've been holding this back. You had this type of rapper up there. You've been holding this back.
You was gatekeeping Stoveguy?
No, that's not what happened. I did not say that's my guy, but I was just saying. It didn't say Steven either. I just assumed Stoveguy's name is Steven. That's hilarious. That's why it's so funny. His name is Aaron. Nah, see, don't take away the image I have. Yeah, don't tell me. Aaron not cooking crack that way. You don't tell me his real name is Aaron.
Aaron don't know how to whip crack rock, man. Aaron, like, come on. That's Stove. That's Stovito right there, man. Don't call him Aaron. That's Stovito. His last name is Cook, though. Yeah, no, I knew that. I knew his real name was in it. But, um... Yeah, man. Like, sleeping on Syracuse. We really rap over there for real. No, Stove... Listen, Stove God... Upstate's the only place that rap now.
Listen, Stove God, he be rapping. He be talking crazy. The shit he be saying, I'm like, dog... I just... You know what it is? His... The great MCs, the great rappers have a certain way of getting to the punchline and getting to the bar. It takes a certain level of cleverness and wittiness that Jay is great at it. Nas is great at it.
All of the greats have this way of... You know it's a punch bar, obviously, because the bar is over. That's the end of the bar. But the way they get to it, like Stove... is so unique in the way he gets to it. Like the first time I heard him spit that Draymond bar, I say, yeah, this is what makes him different. Like it's almost like he gave you the punch bar in the beginning of the bar.
Like the way he does it. The way he even does his melodies, like Adam Page, I need Stove God on this fucking party in Draco. Stove could like kind of sing and really carry a fucking note. I could take the Stove R&B project. He could rap a melody. Nah, Stove is one of those. It's funny, Jay Elect... Put it very simple to me, off a Hove bar. You feel the ambiance, y'all others just rhyme.
Some people are really good at just rhyming and shit. The ambiance is what Stove has.
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Chapter 8: How do personal relationships influence creative expression?
It doesn't have to be the most lyrical shit. It could be simplistic, but that is what his delivery is. It's better than anyone else. And for the people that say that Wes can't really rap like that, he went crazy on Dump World. The outro, that might have been the best verse I've heard him rap rap. Like, he's getting his shit off on that. Yeah, Wes is more braggadocious, more style.
He's not going to blow you away with bars, but he's going to say some funny shit, some slick shit, some cool shit, and some real shit. He's going to tell you what he's really doing, how much he's really making, how much he's really spending. Oh, he going to break it down for you. And he not lying. And he not lying. So yeah, man, shout out to Gunn.
Anytime he's able to put something together and curate something, it's going to be at a certain level. It's a certain taste level when you talk about Westside Gunn. So Westside Gunn 12 available now on your DSPs. Do you think, this wasn't on the list, but fuck it, let's have the conversation. Do you think Shady will ever apologize to us? For what? Specifically Paul Rosenberg. For what?
I champion you being one of the first people in media that was putting Griselda on and saying, even Benny, that first soprano take, even when Wes was cool and people didn't really know about Benny, he was talking about Benny. I feel like we've been the only media platform that bigs up West Side Boogie the way we do.
Mm-hmm.
And they got so butthurt because I said one comment at Soho House with Conway that they canceled us hosting Boogie's release party. And then when I seen Rosenberg, not Pete, Paul, at the Boogie show, He giving me fucking nasty stares the whole time. Like, yo, you know, me and Maul are the only people in media that pump up your roster. No one else does. You should be giving me a fucking hug.
Not looking at me fucking crazy because your A&R got butt hurt because I asked Conway. It felt like he did the whole rollout and Shady didn't, which was the fucking truth. Right. And I heard that from his team. Right. Right. Why are you mad at me for? I mean, you know how it is with this industry, man.
It's, you know, people, whenever you are, they want you to be truthful, but not truthful about them. People want the truth as long as it's not about them. And once you know that about this industry, that's why y'all give me shit. Why I don't go out? Why I don't be around? Why I don't go to events? It's because everybody is fake.
And if you're honest... And now I have to sit in this chair on my platform and I have a duty of being honest to my audience. And if I'm honest... somebody is going to be offended. But I'm not here to be malicious. I'm not here to be disrespectful. I'm here to be honest. I'm here to tell you how I felt about something. I'm here to give you my point of view on it.
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