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New Rory & MAL

Episode 364 | Cousins

22 Apr 2025

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Hey, it's Nora Jones, and my podcast, Playing Along, is back with more of my favorite musicians. Check out my newest episode with Josh Groban. You related to the Phantom at that point.

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Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that. That's so funny. Share each day with me Each night, each morning

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Listen to Nora Jones is Playing Along on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend who's much more famous than I am. I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel.

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On our podcast The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to The Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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It's Financial Literacy Month and the podcast Eating While Broke is bringing real conversations about money, growth and building your future. This month, hear from top streamer Zoe Spencer and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum-Pierre as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up. There's an economic component to communities thriving.

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If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they fail. Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro1021. And I'm Konky, his best friend and business manager. And we've got a new show called The 1021 Podcast.

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I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports. And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to the 1021 podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Volume. We are back. Happy top of the week.

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Top of the top. Happy. Well, he is risen. He is risen. He is. He rose? He rose. Said what's up to his moms and then died again? Mm-hmm. And now we have to go buy, like, pink clothes and New Air Forces. And worship Easter bunnies. Yeah. And then go Easter egg hunting, even though bunnies don't lay... Whatever. Yeah, where did... I don't know. I don't know, man.

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I don't know we've been lied to since we were this high. Yeah. And then we just pass it down to our children and our children and our children. But that makes sense, though. I'm not hunting no live bunnies. Like, I don't want, like, baby bunnies to hunt. That's mad expensive and annoying. Like, give me the eggs. Lie to me. And you're not catching, like, a rabbit. At all.

Chapter 2: How does Easter Weekend influence the podcast conversation?

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Change the game, baby. Change the game. Yeah, you be the first ring girl to actually say something. Nah, I'm cool. Nah? Nah, I'm gonna sit next to Elliot and eat him up. Pause. Pause. Pause. Pause. Yeah, that was rough. Don't even mark that. That's the clip. Don't flip it. No context either. I'll eat Elliot up. That's it. Three second clip. Let it go out. A collab post with Elliot.

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Well, yes, hopefully they do reply. I feel like we put them in a position where they have to do it now. You can't have all that debate for a year straight and then someone challenge you and you'd be like, no. Kind of like Natalie Nunn on Baddie's Reunion, which I also watched yesterday. I had a full fucking day. In between the amusement park to Terrace Martin, I watched the finale.

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Is it WWE or what? Duh. You see the BTS camera when they followed him away from the ring and followed him backstage? I was sitting there like, yo, did Scorsese direct this? That's great. That's like the one shot from Goodfellas. They just ended a fight. They just ended a fight thumping. Duh. And you owe Bobby Light an apology. Why? He's a star. I said he wasn't.

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He has the greatest job of all time. No, I didn't say he was. I said his music wasn't good. I didn't say he wasn't a star. Nah, he can rap. You just don't like the content. He made the first Cousin song. Yeah. That was the brothers. Kanye made Cousins. Bobby Light made Brothers. He's going to whoop our ass. Shout out to Bobby Light, man. I fuck with Bobby Light. I just don't. I do too.

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I don't have nothing against Bobby Light. I have to deal with the consequences of things you say. Remember I told you you ran down on me in Miami? Bobby Light? Yeah. And said what? He was pissed about the comments you made about his freestyle. I just said- I started quoting it. I thought it was borrowed. All I said was turn that off. I don't want to hear that. I didn't say it was bad.

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I just said, yo, I don't want to hear that. He's not for me. He's not for play play. Nah, listen, man. I think Bobby Light is a star. I love what he's doing on the baddies. He's instigating. He's doing what he's supposed to do. He's amazing on that show. Yeah, man. But the baddies is- Damaris, do you watch baddies? Absolutely not. You got to watch it, baby. No, I don't. Yes, you do. No, I don't.

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It's like the perfect guilty pleasure. Because it comes on at 8 on Sunday. So it's like, you know, you can kind of like watch it. It doesn't have to be the last thing you watch Sunday. You can watch something else after that. But it's like, it's just good laughs. It's like, yo, they all here wilding the fuck out. It's just, you know, it's one of those type of shows. That's all.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of Tracee Ellis Ross' comments on dating younger men?

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I don't think that she's dating early 30s. She's definitely talking about 30s, man. Nice little 32-year-old. I don't think so. But I mean, if that's what you guys took from that, that's not what I took from that. Even if it's a 35-year-old, it's a 17-year difference. Yeah. If Tracee Ellis walked in here right now, her boyfriend was 35 and she's 52. People are going to talk about her too.

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People are going to talk about her quicker than they're going to talk about the men. No, but it's a different talk though. It's a different, and that's my point. It's a different talk when it's a woman with a guy. It's not a difference. Y'all niggas dragged Drea to the ends of the fucking earth.

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Chapter 4: How does Kevin Gates' opinion on LeBron James' marriage spark controversy?

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It's not a different talk. No, but that was different because she was actually around him and his girlfriend since they were in high school. That whole situation was different. That's why they gave Dre a shit about that. Because Jalen's ex-girl and Dre were actually, like, she was mentoring Jalen's ex-girl. They gave her a shit about, they were like, he's the same age as your son.

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That's what they were giving her a shit about. Okay. Valid. That's not a valid shit giver? No, but what I'm saying is, yeah, she still caught shit. Like, let's not make it seem like women are able to walk around and do whatever they want. Nobody gives them shit for it. No, no, no. But that situation, you can understand that, no?

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If you're dating a guy that's the same age as your son... I can understand anything. I can understand all of what they're saying, but what I'm saying is we're not just going to paint it like women can do it and men can't and they don't catch it. We're speaking in general, not specifics. Typically, when an older guy is with a younger girl, what is the reason? She wants money. He wants young.

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Chapter 5: What are the lyrics of Kanye West's new track 'Cousins' about?

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If we're, if we're talking about typically what that scenario ends up being more than 15 years. Sure. Okay. When it happens typically with an older woman and a younger man, let's say a 50 year old and a 35 year old, is everyone going to bring up income or are they going to be like, Oh, maybe like each other.

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They usually say that they're taking advantage, that he's trying to take advantage of her for money. If Tracee Ellis Ross is with a 35 year old and he don't happen to have no money. I'm just saying in general, we've seen that before where income isn't a thing. We've never seen a broke old man with a young thing.

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It's never happened. Yeah, it does happen. Where? Just because you don't you don't see it because you don't care about broke people. So you're not checking for what broke niggas is doing. I'm not checking for what broke people are doing. I don't got a fucking dollar to my name. When we're talking about this and when we're in people's business, they're celebrities. So they have money.

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You only know their business because they're celebrities that have money. So you're not checking for the business of people who are not celebrities with money. So you can't sit up there and say, well, we don't hear about them. Of course you don't. They're broke.

Chapter 6: What is the debate surrounding the Shannon Sharpe sexual assault lawsuit?

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You don't know them. Why would you know them?

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no all right but demarius what we're saying is this if you you could be walking outside the chances of you seeing a younger girl with an older significantly older man and he's not well off is what what slim to none okay walk down collins that's y'all's experience i see it you won't where you see that that's not for me to speak on situations because these are people that i know but i see it they fucking with an older broke man he's not well off

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They not fucking with a younger broke nigga. Go fuck with an older broke nigga. I don't know why y'all think that people don't, that broke people don't date. I'm not saying broke people don't date. I'm just saying a woman is not seeking out. No, she's not seeking out, but women date men who don't have any money. People who don't have any money date.

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Just in general, like percentage wise, usually what a stereotype would be. If you walk down Collins in Miami right now, you will run into old men with young women and they're not famous, but you can assume one thing that they are. Yeah, that's Miami. All right, Manhattan. Rich. All right, so where do you want me to go? Little Rock, Arkansas. Yes, yes. It'd be mad.

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Broke older men with young girls. No, but them young girls are fucking him for that check that he get on the first day of the month. We not doing that. We're not putting a dollar amount to it. It ain't much, but it's something. It's something there. It's an incentive. It's an incentive. That old nigga, first of the month come, she right at his crib with him.

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Girl, he want me to just cook for him and just, you know, rub his feet. He going to give me a little $800. That's a lot. You know, to some people, $800 just to go over there and kick it. Just to go over there and kick it. What old man need they feet rub? You available? $800? Cash? That's crazy. I told you I wouldn't do anything for money. You make something shake?

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Yo, he make something shake for $800. I'll make him a smoothie. That was a terrible, terrible joke. Oh my God. Shout out to Tracy Ellis Ross though. Fuck it. Let her get her shit off. I'll be 35 in two weeks.

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And this is why when you say stuff like that, boo, you got to clarify because she could be talking about a nigga that's seven years younger than her and they don't put 25 year old men on you. Tracy Ellis Ross ain't saying she likes younger guys and saying the dude is 45. It's not a younger guy. But to women, it is. I think we're being actually nice and saying 35. Yeah, like, come on, man.

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She might be talking about 30. Yeah, like, it's okay. She can do whatever the fuck she want. But if the roles were reversed, a guy saying that, it would have been a fucking shitstorm. And you know I believe in double standards, so it's cool. It's just like when Nia Long went on that talk show and they asked her about the J. Cole bar. She's like, oh, he's not too young for me.

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