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Episode 385 | 5 Inches In

04 Jul 2025

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Hey, it's Nora Jones, and my podcast, Playing Along, is back with more of my favorite musicians. Check out my newest episode with Josh Groban. You related to the Phantom at that point.

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Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that.

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That's so funny. Share each day with me Each night, each morning Listen to Nora Jones is Playing Along on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On paper, the three hosts of the Nick Dick and Paul show are geniuses. We can explain how AI works, data centers, but there are certain things that we don't necessarily understand.

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Better version of play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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Yes. Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift who said that for the first time. I actually, I thought it was. I got that wrong. But hey, no one's perfect. We're pretty close, though. Listen to the Nick Dick and Paul show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they fail. Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend who's much more famous than I am.

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I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel. On our podcast The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important.

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Listen to The Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know me specifically is free. There's no doubt I love this land. That's how you feel? God bless the USA. Y'all don't feel the same way about the country? God bless the USA. Absolutely. And no place else.

Chapter 2: What are the hosts' plans for the 4th of July?

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Yeah. We're going to come back and revisit this when we have Maul's breakdown too. Oh my God. No, and I love a short king, but... Facts. But... Nah, not Ace. And Ace, yo, by the way, this show has some of the worst tattoos I've ever seen in my fucking life. Can you type in Love Island tattoos? Yo, you really think that there's an article on that that he could just find?

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There's no way that this is not a thing of some of the worst fucking tattoos. This patient's zero. Oh. That's COVID-19 in Wuhan right there. Okay. Those are pretty bad tattoos. Zoom in for me, Josh, please. Now, one of the black dudes has an ape tattoo that is type in Love Island ape tattoo him right there. That guy with the cowboy hat. Taylor. Zoom in, please. Taylor, definitely gay, too.

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Ape shall not kill ape. It actually looks OK from this angle. When you see that shit head on, that's the worst tattoo I've ever seen in my life. So you, some girl got you locked in. You locked in. No. Oh, you watched it on your own? You just said, no, I'm throwing out Love Island? I did watch it by myself.

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I may have been on the phone with somebody that was also watching like, yo, you see this bullshit. Okay, cool. I was just, I know I wasn't. That's watching it with somebody though. Exactly. I was on the phone. And Rory know he counted down from 10 and started at the same time. For sure. He did that. Of course you did that. You gotta do that. You gotta count from 10.

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Are we going on three or after three? No, after three. Yeah. Come on. You do that too though, no? Yeah. I'm 15 seconds in. I'm 15 seconds in. Wait, pause. Hold on. I gotta go to the bathroom. Your shit lagging. Your shit start lagging. I know the game. I know that long distance game. First of all, I was 10 toes, by the way. Because my Peacock account is not mine. My Peacock account is Eden's.

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Which he knows. He gave it to me. Okay. She was like, what's your Peacock login? I was like, nah, nah. The game is to be told, not to be sold. I can't give you Eden's login. You got to go find somebody else for that. And that was when we was on the road. What were we all trying to watch is separately in our hotel and Eden just gave us, it was the, what's the woman that killed her baby?

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Casey Anthony. Yeah, we were on the road and we were trying to watch the Casey Anthony thing and Eden gave me his login. And I said to Eden, I said, you know, I got this for life now though. Like I'm not logging out. Yeah, logging out is crazy. This is going on all my TVs in my house too when I get home. I got it. I didn't give it up. Like, she tried everything. That was good. But I couldn't.

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Come on, I can't do that to that guy. You had some pride. You kept some pride. I had to get my own Hulu account because niggas logged me out. Their Hulu account. Oh, that was rough. That was tough. Get logged out? Yeah. That's all right, though. What are our plans for the 4th of July? Sorry, I'm more invested than you guys. I can't wait for you guys to watch. I'm going to watch it.

Chapter 3: What insights does Tech N9ne share about his experiences on tour?

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Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And their merchandise and their stage show, everything was just... Fucking tip top, man. You know what I'm saying? So we learned a lot on that tour. Yeah. I mean, I remember like, shit, I forgot what year it was. I think MTV did some like behind the scenes shit with them where they toured their whole complex. Yes, sir. And like, there's a radio station. Yes, sir.

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I was like, this is, as a kid, I was like, this is insane. Yes, sir. Not realizing once I got older, I was like, oh, that was a full... Yes, sir. These guys were not just artists. This was... Nah, man. They created something very special, man. You know what I'm saying? And they could do it forever if they wanted to. And...

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To think that we'd still be doing it and we've been our 25th year right now, man, that's a testament. Yeah. To great product, to people coming to your show saying, you got to see this motherfucker on stage. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You got to see Tech N9ne. You know what I mean? Tech, you're one of the guys in hip hop and rap that I think you knock down all stereotypes when it comes to...

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Chapter 4: How does Tech N9ne reflect on his impact on hip-hop and collaborations?

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One, longevity. Yes. Because, you know, we say, we like to say we don't, we can't toy rap, hip hop when artists are in their 50s and things like that or late 40s. It's like it becomes corny or becomes, you have completely dismantled that whole idea or theory that you can't do it because your shows are insane.

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I'm about to be 54 in November. Yeah. And still killing young niggas on stage. Right, right. I'm just talking about, I ain't just talking about, I ain't, you know, I do my little dances and shit here and there, but I'm a gangster, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Dancing, dancing, boogie, you know what I'm saying? Right, right. But it's like...

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I'm just saying, you know, I'll rap up in that motherfucker, man. You know what I'm saying? And I got my live band with me now, man. You know what I'm sizzling? I feel like I'm getting better at everything. You know what I'm saying? Like with my new album, with... just my new verses I do for my, I just did a verse for graph out here. I don't know if I was supposed to say that graph. Sorry.

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You know what I'm saying? Like me and Conway did one on my last album with Joyner Lucas and X rated man. You know what I'm saying? I'm just, I'm still in there with them young motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying? And, and, and I feel like, hip-hop is the only genre that gets that shit said. Oh, absolutely. And it's crazy. And that's why I'm saying you're the guy that's like, look at tech.

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Like, go to a tech show tonight and see what's going on. But when you look at the actual major sellers, like Jay-Z and Eminem and Lil Wayne, and come on, my nigga, we up there. We up there. Yeah. I don't know how old J. Cole is. You know what I'm saying? I don't know how old Kendrick is. They're younger though, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're younger. Look at LL Cool J, man.

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That nigga found the youth a long time ago. You know what I'm saying? It's just shit that niggas say. Like, that's corny if you 50 and rap. Nigga, please. Right. I'll chop motherfuckers down. I think hip hop, just because it's so young, it's like the youngest genre of music, that we haven't been able to see it age. The only rappers that we have seen age have went into other things.

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Like LL, for example, of course could still do Rock the Bells tomorrow if he wanted to, but he went into acting. this is the first time we are seeing how hip hop can actually age. And hip hop fans are getting older too. When I'm 50, I still want to see my favorite rappers when I'm 50. Have you seen Will Smith do brand new funk, motherfucker? That shit's still dope.

Chapter 5: What is the significance of Tech N9ne's upcoming album '5816 Forest'?

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Still dope. Still dope. Summertime, still dope. I just think that it's a... He should chill for a second. I saw Rakim. I saw Rakim like two years ago in KC. Took pictures with him and everything. Fucking dope.

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What I saw was dope. Right. You know what I'm saying? And his DJ, DJ Tech or whatever, he kind of got a name like me or something, technician or something like that. You know what I'm saying? And they gave me shout outs and shit. You know what I mean? And it was a great show, man. It was a fucking hip hop show, man. Yeah.

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I mean, listen, the first Jay-Z show at the Barclays Center, Big Daddy Kane opened. Mm-hmm.

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And-

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was incredible. Still do the splits. Yeah, no, dancers, everything.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Shit, even when they did verses with KRS-One and Big Daddy K, like, these guys are performers for real. Like, there's no reason why hip-hop can't age that way with touring, the same way rock does. You see Melly Mel in this motherfucker? Yeah, yeah.

Chapter 6: How does Tech N9ne view the evolution of hip-hop and its crossover into other genres?

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Roy's the shit. That nigga went against Eminem, you know what I'm saying? Like, damn, Melly Mel! He go against everybody. Yo, the moment the internet started, Melly Mel was like, yo, I'm dissing everybody. He don't give a fuck. Melly Mel don't give a fuck. He don't get no fuck. Yeah, he don't care.

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But I'm saying to that point, man, you know, that's just some shit that niggas have said that, you know. I say that because that was my retort to a lot of shit that people might say to me. Yeah. And Chris Calico made fun of me like I always said, that's just some shit some niggas had said. Yeah, somebody just said it. You know what I'm saying? Somebody said it that it's corny to be older.

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But there are young guys who can't one, sell out a show like Tech N9ne, can't perform like Tech, definitely can't rap like him. And he's in his 50s. Whereas these new 22, 23-year-olds, it's like, is that even rap? Like, I don't even know what that is. Like, we got to call it, because I'm one of those guys. I think that we have to start calling this something else.

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Because a lot of this shit is not rap. They think it's profitable. They try it. Listen, listen, listen. We've lived to see hip-hop do many things.

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Mm-hmm.

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I was there at the very beginning when I first heard Blowfly with Rap Dirty. You know what I'm saying? It was back in the day when we used to buy everything that was hip-hop oriented. Like, we bought Davey D and found out it wasn't really rap. It was singing and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Have you seen Davey? You know what I'm saying? We're like, what the fuck is this?

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But it still got some hip-hop in it. You know what I'm saying? We were buying everything. You know, Ultra Magnetic MCs. You know what I'm saying? Just everything, man. Tough Crew, everything. MC Shy D. You know what I mean? Like... Just all, we seen hip hop do everything. You know what I'm saying? It didn't just, it didn't stop with native tongues, but it was fucking amazing.

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You know what I'm saying? But it kept going. You know what I'm saying? D4L. Soulja Boy, you know what I'm saying? We all talk shit if they weren't lyrical, but it's levels to this shit, y'all. We're just all up under the hip hop umbrella, my nigga. You know what I'm saying? So when you listen to... I hear songs from Lil Tecca I like, my nigga. And I'm a lyrical MC. Right.

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You know what I'm saying? I'm a fucking Travis Scott fan. You know what I'm saying? I fuck with Young Thug. You know what I'm saying? They don't do what I do. I don't do what they do. Right. But... We are indeed under the hip hop umbrella and we do different things. And a lot of these niggas sound alike, but at the same time, everybody got their voice. You know what I'm saying?

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