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New Rory & MAL

Episode 395 | Dreamcatcher

08 Aug 2025

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Chapter 1: What are the WNBA dildo bandits up to?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Hey, it's Nora Jones, and my podcast, Playing Along, is back with more of my favorite musicians. Check out my newest episode with Josh Groban. You related to the Phantom at that point. Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that. That's so funny.

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We can explain how AI works, data centers, but there are certain things that we don't necessarily understand. Better version of play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Yes. Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift who said that for the first time. I actually, I thought it was. I got that wrong. But hey, no one's perfect. We're pretty close, though.

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The Volume.

Chapter 2: What does dreaming about Chris Paul signify?

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It's a difference. It's just love. Don't do that. I wasn't like the biggest slug Atmosphere fan per se, but he did do a lot for Sad Whites. Like they, yeah. I mean, he needs to be in the mix. It's like Prince and then him as far as that state. Everybody says it's Prince and then him. Everybody. This is not the first time that's been said.

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The way they're having the Michael Jackson Beyonce debate is the same Prince versus Slug in Minnesota. Yeah, for sure. I'm looking forward to the J.I.D. project, though. I want to hear what he did. Hear the music he's on. Wait, this is not. This is. This is the album. This is the Audible. No, no, no, no. He put that EP out when, um, this is the album album. Got it.

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Um, like I said, last episode, a bunch of people have heard it and are tweeting about it. They say it's incredible. I'm super excited. And to make it all about me, it'll add to my 2025 prediction list where you guys have to buy me, um, daisies. I'm going with daisies now.

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What did you say? I said clips and JID will have a rap album of the year. So far, I'm doing I'm one for one there. And I have a lot of confidence in my guy, Jed. I think it's going to be a great album, mainly because he told Eminem, sorry. So it's got to be. It's got to have some shit on it.

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But you're changing stuff just to fit your narrative, because you just said that you were thinking Alfredo 2 was going to be one of them of the best albums of the year.

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No, because I didn't even know Alfredo 2 was going to. No, I'm not talking about your... I didn't predict that Alfredo... He announced it like a week before it came out.

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I'm not talking about your predictions. I'm talking about when the album came out, you said, I might like this more than the Clipse album. This might be better than the Clipse album. Didn't he say that?

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Yeah, but time has to go until the end of the year. I don't make my... album of the year confident definitely unless we're in December. But I think right now it's pretty safe to say that the Clipse is a candidate for rap album of the year.

Chapter 3: How do dreams reflect our subconscious desires?

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I see where the decision is here. Nah, man. Send me to heaven. I ain't going to hell for these women and their sins. God forgave me for mine.

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Ma, you think you're going to heaven?

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Absolutely. Peej scoffed. Yeah, he scoffed at the question. Not at the answer. Like, yeah, absolutely. Roy, you think you're going to heaven? Y'all are very confident. I'm definitely going to heaven. Definitely. And if I, for some reason I'm not, like I'm talking, I know somebody, I know somebody, I'm getting into heaven. My nigga, it's not due.

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I know somebody, I know somebody, I'm getting into heaven. But nah, see, this is where I don't think that's going to work for you because you refuse to ever hit anybody up for like a favor. Yeah. Or like, you know, I'm not asking nobody for tickets, like that type of thing. So I feel like you'd be stubborn, like in, what's the shit that the Catholic church made up about? Yeah, limbo, purgatory.

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I think you should be standing outside the purgatory like this. I'm not texting nobody. I'm not going to ask niggas for no ticket. If they don't want me in the pearly gates, I ain't going in the pearly gates. It depends on who at the door. It depends on who doing the door. Abraham. Nah, fuck with Abraham. Lincoln? I'm getting there. Lincoln? You're high, man. He's tall. He'd make a good bouncer.

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He said Lincoln? No, man. You think Abraham Lincoln is at the gate? You think actual Abraham is waiting at the pearly gates? He got other shit to do. Nah, it's his party, though. Somebody at the gate. Whoever at the gate, I'm good. Trust me. It's pretty much, to me, it's going to be all the figures of each religion. It'll be religious palooza.

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It's all their whole... I'm going to see somebody do the gating. I'm like, nah, it's more. He with us. I mean, who do you think you are? Somebody, somebody going to be in there. You just killed them off in this story. Like they're all, they're also not many. Somebody that's already dead. Like I'm going to see them outside smoking a cigarette. I'm going to see them through the gate. Yeah.

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Like, yo, like he tripping. You're trying to send me back. I ain't going down there. Yo, nah, he with us. He, he on the list. And then somebody just going to, you just going to hear a TV flick on. It's just going to be podcast clips rolling. It's all right, though. If podcast clips get you to hell, hell's going to be packed. Yeah. There's no fucking way.

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It be like that down there.

Chapter 4: What are the expectations for Bryson Tiller's new music?

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Now, if it's just him, and it's on a record, it's an uptempo, and he's in his melodic rap shit, oh, we know that that's his fadeaway. We know that, but... Is it that or is he like trying to give us bars? Like Bryson, he ain't trying to metaphor you and bar you down. He got flows, he got melodies. But if he on there trying to stand toe to toe with Rick Ross, I'm going to be a little disappointed.

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But what if he does a good job? I don't doubt that Bryson can do that. If it's the melodic Bryson, where it's like that, it's like... Why do you think that he can't rap rap?

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That's what I'm asking you.

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Chapter 5: How does Bryson Tiller's style compare to other artists?

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Because Rambo, he was rapping. I'm not saying I don't... I just don't want that from Bryson Tiller. Why? Give us... Don't go away from the mid-range.

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He's going to do a second diss, though.

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And also, wouldn't you say like even where Gunna has even gone is like full melodic rapping? That's kind of everybody now. So for somebody that has a pen like Bryson, yeah, I wouldn't mind him leaning more into the rap shit. No melodic, just straight...

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ball you down like Ross everything for the most part now is melodic outside of the legacy that's what I'm saying if he's doing that great I'm saying if he's on it rapping like how Ross rap Ross don't rap with no melodies he giving you straight bars if Bryson is doing that I'm just a you know it's just kind of like I'm going in with a little apprehensiveness like did you hear his feature on Keanu the day's album gone

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How long ago was that? That feels like it was a while ago.

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Two years ago? Two years ago, maybe? Maybe three?

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One of the best verses of the year. He's rapping on that, but yes, it is very much melodic. I wanted to use that as an example. If he's saying there's going to be a rap album, I think there'll be even more rap than what that feature was.

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Mm-hmm.

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That was very melodic, but he still has bars. I'm scared.

Chapter 6: What red flags should you consider in a partner's family dynamic?

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I mean, with Bum B, shit, Pimp C to me was melodic. Bum B's melodic to me. No, but you know the melodic I'm talking about. I know, but shit, Pimp C was. Yeah, but I don't know. I'm a little... I thought this was Bryce and Tilla going back to, you know... Giving us that R&B, that bag. But I mean, listen, man. Double this. This is just the first one.

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One thing I will say, Bryson has gained my trust as an artist. I trust him as an artist. Yeah. I actually think Bryson is very much underrated with his discography. He got a lot of slack for his follow-up, I think, after Trap Soul and Mixed Reviews on One After That. I think everything he's put out is great. His last album was crazy. I really fuck with Bryson and...

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I don't know where the disconnect has been at least. I only speak to the social media world, like where people have started to doubt Bryson. Was it because Trap Soul was just like the biggest thing ever that year and the only way you can go from there is down? I've never understood why people keep overlooking the quality music that Bryson keeps putting out.

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Well, I think at this point now, maybe after his second album, but I'm talking about at this point now, I don't think it's that it was because of Trap Soul. I think that the people who are really...

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pushing music or paying attention to music right now barely remember Trap Soul like they were younger like I don't think the young kids he doesn't mean as much to them as he does to us but even like the build up of him being the next guy going from Trap Soul to then the Khaled and Rihanna record which I was a

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timeless record like that could play now it'd be fine yeah but there was a gap he was set well he was setting up to be the guy and then he took a break i mean didn't he get married or something something happened where he like took a break when i think he did when the shit was going up and then he put out an album that just didn't have a single that worked but i thought it was a dope album they gotta join on there with drake that's fire that i just for some reason i don't know if it was if it was the label not working it but

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I don't know. I'm excited for this Bryce and shit, and I love that it's a double disc. Do you think he's mad that having Plows, T-Pain, is he going the nostalgia route that Metro just went with features like that? I hope not. From the same era. Yeah. Like we're all the same age. When I see those two combined, to me that feels like you're trying to do a 2000s thing.

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If you have Plows and T-Pain together on your song. Plows. Why do you keep saying Plows? I don't know why. You gonna do something? Yeah, maybe. Okay. Speaking of Metro's album, did you guys like it? No. Huh? No. Is that out of loyalty or actual idolatry? They played four records in here, and Peach told me the whole album sounds like that, and I was like, I can't listen to that.

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I understand what he's doing, though. They say he wants music to go back regional and keep things. If you're from Atlanta, your music should sound like... I respect that. But that sound wasn't... Well, yes, it was regional. Don't get me wrong. That's Atlanta all day. But it... Went everywhere. Yeah, no. And I get that. And that's cool. But I just listen, man. I'm everything is just not for me.

Chapter 7: What political aspirations do the hosts have?

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I can't hear that. I don't I will. I don't even know where to play that. Definitely not playing that in the crib, not playing that on the drive. Like I'm not. Where am I playing at it? Somebody, that's for somebody. Somebody's going to love that and play that somewhere at a day party, something like, you know, they're going to, they're going to have fun with it.

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I'm just saying me personally, I think Metro was dope, but I'm just saying that album, I can't, that music is not, it's not for me. I mean, it was, I haven't gotten through the entire thing and I, Without getting through the entire thing, my point is, did it need to be a double disc? Again, I get it. You're doing the nostalgia shit.

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This was what I was listening to in high school, into freshman year of college. I love Roscoe Dash. I love Travis Porter. Here in Gucci, they want to have fun. I like that record a lot. Do we need... what is this, 20, 25 records of this sound?

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Like this could have been a really, cause you know, Metro does really good EPs, whether it be with Sean Quavo, like he just throws out, he has a high volume. Like he puts out a lot of shit. do we need this much of this sound? Like, could it be an EP? I would really appreciate an EP of this type of shit based off my age and the era that this music came out. I can really appreciate it.

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It's nostalgic to me. Love Waka. Like, all this shit is great, but why 25 fucking songs of this? Like, for what? It's too much. There's a such thing as too much. For me, again, somebody's going to love it. Somebody's going to be excited to hear that sound again and go back to that time. I'm more on the side of give me something more current, give me something that we probably didn't get

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You know what I mean? Change the sound a little bit. Like I'm on that side of it. Like I respect what he did. And I think it makes sense to try to get music back to a place where it's more regional. You represent where you from more instead of, you know, everybody being on social media and try to chase what the wave is. It's like, no, stay in your corner, stay in your pocket, do what you do.

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I respect that. I'm just saying not to this extent, 25 tracks of that sound from, was it like 05? Yeah. 06, 04, maybe around there. 04 to 06. Yeah, don't take me 20 years back. Don't do that. Like, give me something that we didn't get. It was like, oh, this is crazy. This is innovative. This is, you know what I'm saying?

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Give me that before you take me back 25 tracks of a sound from 20 years ago. It's been on it a little bit. Like, I like that it was hosted by a DJ, too. That went back to that era. Yeah, I get it. It's very nostalgic. I get it. This is my theory. I can't prove this. Why this is 25 records is because I think, and there's no disrespect to that era, because I love that era.

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I got pussy for the first time in that era. It's a special place in my fucking heart. This sound was high school dances. That was our shit. I think Metro found out how fucking easy it was to make those type of beats, and that's why we have 25 of them. I think he made every one of these beats. He said, oh my God, with the stuff... technology we have now, I could make this beat in five seconds.

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